Mike Tyson vs George Foreman 1988

there was plenty of fighters that were not afraid of Tyson which renders that part of the argument pointless. I dunno how many times this has to be put to bed....

For instance Ruddock didn't look scared, in fact he was teeing off on Tyson in their two fights and the "bully" still won. its not about being a Tyson fan boy or whatever the detractors call it. Its about looking at the footage and seeing what is there. Its a myth that Tyson needed his opponent to be scared in order to win, the proof is there on tape. Even if he was the front runner bully people say he was, old Foreman did not have the ability to execute a fight plan to exploit it. Douglas was dam near Muhammad Ali when he got the better of an unprepared Tyson, and still nearly got himself KOed.

as for the press conference, do you really think the new big lovable George would phase him? Tyson is from the streets, he would have thrown language from the gutter and told big ole George Foreman to shove that grill up his ass. Tyson would have shown no class and completely trash talk him, the same brutal talk he used in previous fights. would have no baring at all on the fight. Forman's stare was no longer coming from the physical beast he was in the 70s, he was now a fat old burger eating grandad

 

No, but I’ve been accused of being a Tyson hater. Far from it, I just have little tolerance for his insufferable fans.

 

About your name...Marciano fan or not?

 

Ironically I'd pick Dempsey to take all of them. I'd also pick Marciano against everyone except Lewis and perhaps Bowe. It's all about the styles.

 

I'm just saying Tyson was still well ahead of Dokes and Steward, that's for sure. I don't think those fights are overly relevant.

We can be very very confident Holyfield was always going to be up for Tyson, in fact it's a complete given. One can absolutely debate a fresher Tyson may have got past him but personally i just can't see it.

Holyfield really was the boss in there for mine. His tactics were 100% spot on and would also do a lot to nullify peak Tyson. He bullied Tyson in clinches, he negated his mid range and he took away so much of his power and speed advantage. Tyson only knew one way and if you could get on top of that it was curtains for him.

IMO Holyfield would always nullify plan A and there in lays the story of the battle. Foreman would do the same.

 

Pre Ali Foreman.

 

Marciano would not last 4 rounds with 1990 foreman

 

Holyfield had the number of tyson he would beat tyson 10/10 times.

 

How about a compromise.

If I admit that Marciano would probably have lost to 70s Foreman for stylistic reasons, perhaps you could admit that Marciano would probably beat 90s Foreman, because he was just too old?

 

That’s too bad cause I think Marciano runs roughshod over Tyson’s Daddy at 190.

 

You know who else would probably “son” Tyson...Ray Mercer.

 

No... Because i don't think it. Foreman was 40 but still he was not normal.. He was facing elite young guys and was competitive with a peak evander for 12 rounds.. Marciano was a small cruiser weight and stylistically he was made in order of any version of foreman. 1990-1991 foreman would smash marciano like an insect. He was 2 times the size of marciano in 1,he had better chin, was physically stronger,hits harder he had a heavy jab,he had great stamina,tough mind,heart and the speed would not be a factor because marciano was slow like **** too so rocky has literally no chance here