MARVIN HAGLER-I don't think so

I opined in the 15 Middleweight Post this; I would have liked to see the 1983 peak prime right after the Sibson fight Hagler vs Spinks. What is the difference advantage wise between this fight and 1983 Peak Hagler vs 1983 Duran (who had a horrid 1982 and was considered finished). Leonard and Hearns wouldn't fight this peak Hagler and Hagler wouldn't nut up and fight Mike Spinks (or Braxton for that matter). Bur ROBERTO DURAN fought anyone, anytime, anywhere. Why is Hagler given a pass? You can bet your house that if Duran is given the decision against Hagler and is then offered big money to fight Spinks (or Braxton for that matter) he would. Different rules for Hag, Leo and Hearns in their PRIME as opposed to Duran, whose prime was in the 70s and he was the oldest, shortest and smallest of all as well as having a hell of a lot more shelfwear 4 divisions above his best weight in many more fights. Jeez, he was Champion and fighting the best boxers(Buchanon) around before any of them even turned pro. In Ray and Toms case 5 years as champ. What do you think. Why is Hagler given a pass. Andreally Leonard and Hearns for waiting till Marvin got old.?

 

Duran was lightweight champion 7 years. There was no one left to fight.Arguello SAID at the time he wasn't ready. Hagler always talked about the famous welters fighting him. Why not him spinks? You have a double standard guys.

 

Aaaaaand, when Duran did leave the lightweight division, he jumped 2 weights and fought Leonard. Not exactly a bum. My point is that while DURAN would fight anyone, prime big or not, the other three didn't and Hagler who whined for years of welterweight s ducking him, never had the balls to challenge Spinks. And yes moving from lightweight at 29 and 5'7 to face 5'10 24 yr old Leonard after being champ 7 yrs and a pro 13 is more than equivalent of Hag fighting Spinks . And then prime Hag! Yeah, I wish more fighters were THAT lazy. DOUBLE STANDARDS GUYS AND YOU KNOW IT. Even Hagler said DURAN was the only one wth the balls to face him at his best.

 

And great fighters take that chance as Duran did. Great fighters DO NOT whine that smaller fighters are waiting for him Hagler to get old and refuse to test himself against the next weight.

 

Bull****! Ultimate respect my ass. For 2 yrs before 79, Hagler whined about being ducked. He becomes champ in 80 and the last 3 years of his reign, did not fight a single middleweight. Not one. All the contenders were pushed aside so Marvin could line his pockets. No longtime champion in the lower classes in history failed to defend against someone in his own class for three yrs. Hagler was a whining hypocrite. He always said when a famous name was brought up, "that fight will bring out the best in me." Well, the best of Hagler looked like **** against the LEFTOVERS of DURAN and Leonard. Ultimate respect, ha ha what a joke. Hagler deserved to lose to his nemisis. A welterweight who had fought 1 time, and badly, over 5 years. And you want me to believe this guy is the greatest middleweight ever? Wow! Well, he couldn't even be the Middleweight Champion of the old welterweighs.

 

Besides yr 9 year fantasy, do you realize you just proven my double standard. The greats take the chance. If you want to run w the big dogs leave the porch. Hag didn't! Hagler had KOd every challenger when old Duran fought him. It was considered a gross mismatch. Only DURAN's greatness and Hagler s innate timidity and nature to be insecure and intimidated made the match exciting. Great fighters take the chance when they are whining about wanting a huge payday.

 

There is something VERY wrong with it when you spend your time whining and threaten to retire (as he did to L. Merchant after the Scypion fight) that lowerweight fighters won't move up and fight you for big money. It is entirely hypocritical when a furtune in right above you in a fight with Spinks. Great fighters, especially a whiner like Hag, should take the chanc.

 

And one other thing; this myth that Hag went to Philly, where I was from, to face the iron of the division is bull****. Watts, Hart, Monroe and Briscoe? Give me a break. Hagler was last in line to beat Bennie. The 78 Briscoe was nothing like the 71 Briscoe. Hart? Briscoe took him in 1. Antuofermo, who beat Bennie during the decline also, took out Hart in 5. Hagler was Monroes only good win and Watts was a joke. Look as t the records when Hag fought them

 

**** David zzz love, a 50/50 fighter ate up philly until Parker

Because he moved up to fight undefeated Holmes. Great fighters do that. Who s the ******* now. Hard to believe you asked that. Stupid