How many prime Feathers beat prime Sanchez?

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  1. Gudetama

    Gudetama Active Member Full Member

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    I know his career was all too short. So we can't track his possible decline. So, prime for prime, how many of history's top featherweights beat him?
    I'll say only three: Pep, Saddler, and Armstrong.
    He's a favourite of mine. Am i overrating him?
     
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  2. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pedroza gets added to that list. Think Salvidar-Sanchez would be awfully close, too.
     
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  3. lufcrazy

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    Pep is the only man I rank him above as a FW.

    Sanchez was an incredible talent.

    I think out of those who've fought at 126 Pep, Armstrong and Jofre are the only ones I'd definitely favour.

    Saddler, PAC and Lomachenko have a decent shot but I'd favour Sanchez over all 3.
     
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  4. Gudetama

    Gudetama Active Member Full Member

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    I see Pep and Armstrong. But... You'd pick Jofre to beat Salvador at Feather?
     
  5. lufcrazy

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    It's a hard call. I mean I think Jofre is a better fighter period than Sanchez. Do I think the extra 8 pounds are enough to sway my thinking? I'm not so sure.
     
  6. JohnThomas1

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    I think there'd be a handful in the washup.
     
  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Nah, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that statement.

    There may have been more but it's not like you're wildly wrong, it's fair to stick by.
     
  8. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    How highly do you rate Sanchez
     
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    Like Drew says, I'd make Pedroza and Saldivar slight favourites over him at their very bests though I'm sure some will disagree.

    I like prime Marcel too, that slick, smooth, fluid movement and all round ability is wrong for a natural counterpuncher like Sal imo.

    I wish we had more footage of Driscoll because what we do have has always really impressed me. A quick, fleet-footed, straight puncher with master ring-generalship and great jab. Again not a friendly style for Sanchez to handle.

    I could see Elorde being a serious handful too, such a fast, well-schooled all-rounder and skilled ring general.

    Some of the better pure-boxers at the weight who weren't ATGs would make for some interesting fights and stylistic clashes. Guys like Winstone and Famechon were at least as good as Ruben Castillo who gave Sal a very close fight and had the style to make him chase and over-extend, though I'm not sure I'm brave enough to pick them. Likewise I could see the mini-Ali stylings of Legra being a serious challenge.
     
  10. SuzieQ49

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    No you're not overrating him! He was a special talent, one of the best I have ever seen on film, one of the best fighters who ever lived Im my opinion.
     
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  11. SuzieQ49

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    I think Sal was in a class above pedroza. Saldivar would have countered saldivar to death. Saldivar would have gotten to marcel with the left hook

    Sanchez was a truly special talent..generational level talent
     
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  12. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    I think Sanchez looks better on film than Jofre, I might rate Sanchez higher p4p since both have great resumes, not much disparity there. I recently watched Sanchez vs Nelson..one of the best fights I have ever seen. Two greats in their primes. Sanchez just took it to the next level. He had joe Louis like composure in there when Nelson backed him against the ropes
     
  13. Drew101

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    Pedroza's style is all wrong for Sanchez. A tall, elusive outboxer with ridiculous infighing skills and the ability to accelerate late makes him a tough out for Chava. Marcel at featherweight is tough proposition, too. And Salvidar thrived against counter-punchers.

    Not a single one of these match-ups are easy for Sanchez.
     
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  14. lufcrazy

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    Sanchez is an absolute great and at this level we're pretty much splitting hairs as to who is better, for me they're both excellent technicians but Jofre is a bit better defensively and has slightly better timing.

    I'm not sure if the extra 8 pounds is a bridge too far or not, he did win the FW championship later in his career though so I reckon he could handle it.
     
  15. SuzieQ49

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    I don't think any style is wrong for Sanchez. He was one of the closest things we've seen to a perfect fighter in boxing history. His skills and talent were incredible, his handspeed wasn't great but his timing and accuracy was off the charts. His confidence and poise was unmatched..he had an incredible left hook, he was a great two handed puncher and finisher, his footwork was beautiful he took perfect angles, he knew when and where to move, his defense was very good in the pocket with shoulder rolls and head weaves. But he could also get out of harms way with his feet, as good as anyone. Maybe the best fighter ever at fighting back while trapped on the ropes because he didn't panic and trusted his instincts. He would wait patiently while under attack make the fighter slightly miss, then deliver a beautiful left hook followed by a lethal combination Sanchez is one of the greatest fighters who ever lived in my opinion

    Pedroza struggled to win decisions over lesser fighters than Sanchez..he had a shaky chin early in his career...it wasn't hard to land on him. I think Sanchez walks him down and stops him in mid rounds . He's just the way stronger, much harder puncher, more athletic fighter I think he was in a higher class.


    Saldivar never fought a counterpuncher with the punching skills and footwork of a prime Sanchez...just a completely different animal to anyone saldivar faced
     
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