Why Wilder NOT Taking The Offer Is A Duck

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  1. Papillon

    Papillon Active Member Full Member

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    But you must realise it doesn't work like that, Parker brought next to nothing yo the table outside of a belt.

    Hell more people chose to watch Erislandy Lara than (in a Hearn voice) "Anthony Joshua" fight Parker.
     
  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    The Ring? Why does a magazine that can rate fighters how they like have any significance to you?
    It is interesting to see unifications no doubt, but one fighter is the money fighter, like F Mayweather was when he was challenging and defending.
    Now I can see the idea of 25% to 75% split when it is 3 titles to 1 but if you have one fighter who is not PPV and the other who is and doing massive numbers, as well as holding the share of the titles I cant see why a fighter getting more than 8 times there biggest pay day wouldnt be interested. I guess it must be about money and not legacy which I can understand but if Wilder were to win he could get alot more in a return.
    Splits arent the only way when one can get that much more I dont think, but then I dont know either
     
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  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Im no expert but to my understanding Parker was PPV in his home land and Wilder is not in the USA.
    Parker was fighting in venues that held 10k of people. I dont know if Wilders crowds are that big or not?

    Its not right to compare the two fights as Joshua had 2 titles and Parker had 1, but in this fight Joshua has 3 titles and taken the risks to get there and Wilder has 1 and with no more on the line.

    If the figures given are correct. wilder would be getting more than 8 times his biggest pay day. Thats massive
     
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  4. LD Boxer-Puncher

    LD Boxer-Puncher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'd have to suggest it's totally the other way around. If you just tipped 33% to Joseph Parker and aren't even going to give Wilder what a mandatory challenger would receive in terms of a percentage in 25%, how can you really argue its fast car Eddie who doesn't want this fight yet? Who in their right mind is going to be cool with that immediately? Only to watch him then go and see a Pulev or Brezeale of the future getting 25% in a bout with him in his next fight?

    Eddie is ducking this fight
     
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  5. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Because isn't the argument why should Wilder earn more than Parker? Wilder bring more to the table in almost every department. No other HW will bring undisputed , Ring and lineal status to Joshua so his worth has to be a lot more.
     
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  6. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wilder doesnt bring undisputed, Joshua does have more claim to that as he won all of the other titles.
    Thats silly to say as if Joshua/wilder came before Joshua/Parker that would be said that way around.

    Im no expert but to my understanding Parker was PPV in his home land and Wilder is not in the USA.
    Parker was fighting in venues that held 10k of people. I dont know if Wilders crowds are that big or not?

    Its not right to compare the two fights as Joshua had 2 titles and Parker had 1, but in this fight Joshua has 3 titles and taken the risks to get there and Wilder has 1 and with no more on the line.
     
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  7. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I always assume its more...either way you can tell the idiots who have no common sense to those who know what the obvious direction to go in is.

    Some ppl are just either mentally challenged or just don't know how to add?

    I for one wouldn't let my fighter fight for years and hope he doesn't lose and miss out on a 25 million deal on the table.

    I would also assume my fighters going to win making this whole situation a 40 million deal...

    You can't fix stupid that's for sure and there's plenty on here to go around... :confused:
     
  8. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Leave the promotional stuff and deal making to the professionals, champ.
     
  9. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Which firm is that? The Money Team?
     
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  10. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Even if it was, it's still far better than being unemployed, like yourself. :bananaride
     
  11. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'll ask you.. what is/are..

    Wilders highest purse?

    Wilders biggest live gate?

    Wilders highest PPV numbers?


    Answer those questions then explain to me how it's a "lowball" offer, make sure you answer the questions first though.

    Don't go all "blackcloud" on me and ignore the questions and start insulting and throwing tantrums because you don't want to answers those three rather simple questions.
     
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  12. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Wilder like brings nothing to the table, not sure why he wouldn't accept a 10 million plus payday, who in America is getting that per fight atm??
     
  13. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder and everyone else should be happy AJ is around. His the guy which can set them up for life.
     
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  14. N17

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    Wilder said repeatedly is isn't about money, it's about being the best, well he has been offered his best every purse so Wilder has no excuses not to take the fight.

    He has screamed for the fight, said it isn't about money and yet still refuses to sign.

    Are you going to deny Wilder said "it isn't about the money and it's about being the best"?

    It isn't a duck on Joshua's side, it's a very generous offer to a man who earns next to nothing and will continue to earn next to nothing compared to AJ.

    Facts are Wilder can go and fight Breazeale for 1.5 million and Joshua can go and fight Povetkin for a minimum of 10x that, a minimum.

    Joshua has had unification fights, he is regarded the number 1 in the division by nearly everybody who matters, AJ hold 3 belts, so Wilder is behind him on every level and behind AJ when it comes to achievements.

    Wilder is 33 years old this year, had 7 defences and still hasn't earned a 8 figure payday, he is being offered one and is refusing it.. he is pricing himself out and that to me is the duck.
     
  15. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Exactly, Wilder has been a champion longer than AJ, Wilder has had more defences, yet zero unification fights.

    He could have fought Klitschko, he could have fought Parker but he chose to fight the likes of Szpilka, Areola, Washington, Molina..

    It's an absolute joke some people on here are claiming Wilder deserves more, I'm actually embarrassed for some of these people, they are spouting complete rubbish and sound foolish.

    Wilder has been offered a career high payday for doing very little except keeping a title hostage for a long time and let's not forget Wilder said "it isn't about the money", well he should prove he means what he has said and sign.
     
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