Where do you rate Andre Ward all time p4p? And at 168?

He's top 30 p4p with me.

And second only to Calzaghe at SMW

 

Maybe top 60 or 70 P4P and 2nd to Joe at 168.

 

Nowhere.

 

HOF yes. ATG no.

 

Nowhere

 

30 p4p

Number 1 SMW out of those I class as SMW fighters anyways. The following fought there who I rank higher p4p

Jones, Leonard, Duran, Hearns, plus technically there's Moore, Charles and Langford as well.

In terms of the way most other guys rank that probably puts him number 2 SMW.

 

As a 168 pounder, he is probably in the top 5. But, that is a testament to how weak that division's history has been. I do not rate him in the top 100 P4P. In reality, he was always a light heavy who fought at 168. He was coddled from the beginning, and almost always had the benefit of day before weigh ins. If he had come around in a different era, he would have always fought at 175. And, I do not have him in the top 50 light heavyweights (much less P4P)

 

I'd place him in the top 150 P4P. Top 40 LightHeavy. (I've never made lists for the SuperMiddleweight division).

 

really got to be number 1 smw, the real question is who is no 2

 

Who do you rate in the top 100 p4p

 

When you get a chance, please visit the General. It's back lol.

 

u guys dont rate him highly at all?

 

Does he really? I think it's pretty close between he and Calzaghe.