Where do you rate Andre Ward all time p4p? And at 168?

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    thoughts
     
    SuzieQ49, Apr 11, 2018
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  2. LD Boxer-Puncher

    LD Boxer-Puncher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's top 30 p4p with me.

    And second only to Calzaghe at SMW
     
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    Maybe top 60 or 70 P4P and 2nd to Joe at 168.
     
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    HOF yes. ATG no.
     
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  7. lufcrazy

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    30 p4p

    Number 1 SMW out of those I class as SMW fighters anyways. The following fought there who I rank higher p4p

    Jones, Leonard, Duran, Hearns, plus technically there's Moore, Charles and Langford as well.

    In terms of the way most other guys rank that probably puts him number 2 SMW.
     
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    As a 168 pounder, he is probably in the top 5. But, that is a testament to how weak that division's history has been. I do not rate him in the top 100 P4P. In reality, he was always a light heavy who fought at 168. He was coddled from the beginning, and almost always had the benefit of day before weigh ins. If he had come around in a different era, he would have always fought at 175. And, I do not have him in the top 50 light heavyweights (much less P4P)
     
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    I'd place him in the top 150 P4P. Top 40 LightHeavy. (I've never made lists for the SuperMiddleweight division).
     
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    really got to be number 1 smw, the real question is who is no 2
     
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    Who do you rate in the top 100 p4p
     
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    When you get a chance, please visit the General. It's back lol.
     
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  13. lepinthehood

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    u guys dont rate him highly at all?
     
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    Does he really? I think it's pretty close between he and Calzaghe.
     
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    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Who did Calzaghe ever beat to deserve number 1 spot all time?
     
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