To this day nobody can explain to me why crawford is p4p #1

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  1. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    I'd say all three, amongst others, but certiainly not mainly burns
     
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    _Frankly Bivolian! banned Full Member

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    I was just trying to be kind to TC by at least attaching to him someone who's mildly familiar even it it is only the SNP who know of him :lol:

    Did I really have to clarify basic **** like this to you?! By citing Burns I was automatically including Beltran & Indongo! I would have thought this was obvious?!

    They beat him hence my statement 'built on' Burns.. Other than Burns they've done FA & even Burns is B- level himself. TC beat him & most of his best wins too (Mandingo, Beltran) made there 'names' from also doing so.

    His resume is mainly built on Burns. What is Indongo known for? Beltran what's his main claim to fame? Beating Burns...

    Built on Indongo sounds even worse! Burns had lost so many times by the Indongo fight not even I'm a celebrity wanted him :lol:

    You Racist!
     
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    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Look at the sate of his signature too.. What a slimeball :sisi3:
     
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    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    He's also not been the same fighter since his trainer passed, which people tend to forget about. Still a hell of a result for SSR, though.
     
  6. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    i still see you are trying to defend your mistake...by saying "oh i didnt write "mainly burns" when u clear as rain did.

    it would be better 4 u to admit the error and move
     
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    yeh he just confirmed he didnt make a mistake, he actually meant what he wrote.

    he dig, daddio.
     
  8. _Frankly

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    I was rooting for all 3
     
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    Well why not give the little guys some credit?

    They fight with more frequency, train with more discipline, fight in more competitive weight categories, routinely show more heart and have more technical ability than most HWs do. All that for a minuscule fraction of even a HW bum payday, not to mention the sponsorship and lime light even a fringe HW contender can get.

    Cut the little guys some slack, let them get their day in the sun, they're the guys that keep the whole sport glued together.
     
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    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    no it doesnt, beating indongo or beltran is a better win than beating burns
     
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    What? :lol:
     
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    One can argue SSR'S place at the top. Nobody mentioned in the top 5 has a win over someone as highly ranked as Gonzalez on their resume. The problem with th P4P list is, what is the criteria? H2H, who beats Loma? Accomplishments goes to G. It's very subjective at this point and most arguments a legit. Very entertaining to say the least!
     
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    u heard
     
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    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    It’s been a while since the boxing world has had such an interchangeable listing of P4p fighters. Solidarity at the top spot is also considered a lofty goal but Loma would earn that spot in my personal opinion if he defeats Linares in absolute style.

    Crawford is supremely talented and his dominance in the ring is well documented. I think he needs a signature win to make an argument for him remaining at number one because evaluating him from an abstract lens will almost always tell you he’s one of the if not the best but it’s all theoretical when your best wins don’t backup your status. To be fair guys like Indongo, Gamboa, Postol even Klimov all highly touted and respected undefeated fighters and Crawford made them look pedestrian. The Horn fight will help and if both Loma and Crawford look impressive during their respective next bouts it will be yet another case if interchangeable positioning for the fans.
     
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    If AJ had fought Wlad in his first title fight and second overall, Wlad wouldve destroyed him.

    Loma's got the loss, but he's also had more title fights and more title wins than Joshua despite them turning pro the same year. He raised his level of competition sooner.
     
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