Did FMJ Destroy the PPV Model?

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  1. alpo1

    alpo1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When thinking about the small chance of the AJ vs Wilder fight being a success stateside, I was thinking if floyd's last few fights had an affect on this? The main culprit being the farce against big mouth mcgregor.

    Back in the day the PPV stars gave value for money: Tyson, Holyfield, Dela Hoya, Chavez, Prince Naseem, Morales, Pacman, Barerra etc.

    Could those crap fights and mismatches have turned away the casual USA viewer? As the ppv numbers seem pretty rubbish nowadays, and the money seems to be in the UK.
     
  2. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd v McGregor says hi.

    That fight did ridiculous numbers so no people clearly are prepared to buy PPV
     
  3. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    I honestly don't know why people bought Floyd's PPVs. Whenever I talked to people that bought it or saw the crowd in HBO a week after, none sounded or looked too excited. I guess casuals are easily attratced by some **** talk that always failed to live up to expections. I understand the Conor hype, who talks **** but is actually aggressive in his fights and looks to finish.
     
  4. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the way the title of the thread is worded, i thought floyd beat up an online hooker.
     
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  5. alpo1

    alpo1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's what I mean. If casuals keep getting fed crap they'll eventually stop paying for PPV. Floyd was the only real American PPV star for years and very rarely gave the customer value for money, and basically scammed them with his last fight.

    It was bound to have a knock on effect on the up and coming fighters' numbers.
     
  6. alpo1

    alpo1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd wouldn't be able to destroy an average sized female hooker, he'd take her to a majority points decision.
     
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  7. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd v Pacquiao did record numbers and people said the fight was disappointing. Floyd v Berto did low numbers and people said that was because of Mayweather v Pacquiao.

    Floyd v McGregor then does huge numbers. Why?

    People will pay for the right fights and right characters.

    If fights are doing low numbers that's nothing to do with Mayweather.
     
  8. FuMaster

    FuMaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tyson and King are reponsible for the BS. Tyson fought a lot of bums and people ate it up.
     
  9. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    That's not why, boxing just isn't promoted very well. None of the new talents have been turned into household names aside from Canelo.
     
  10. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    the reason IMO is promoters do not use free to air bbc/itv /nbc/abc/ etc etc to showcase there fighters .

    promoters then put the same boxers on ppv before they have built up a big fanbase leaving boxing to only die hard hardcore fans.

    the saying is true out of sight is out of mind
     
  11. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You can’t single Floyd out for this. The public has never liked PPV, and has generally always gotten poor value for its money. The promoters and networks should share in the blame just as much as the fighters. Maybe we should thank Floyd for delivering the death blow and forcing other alternatives. But Pacquiao, Arum and CBS also have to share the blame for that fiasco.
     
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  12. alpo1

    alpo1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's strange but uk ppv numbers are booming it seems whereas american numbers have stagnated. It could be a case of eddie and fwank having more direct interaction with big youtube channels like IFL
     
  13. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    AJ has done 3 mil buys in his last 3 fights. That's amazing!!!
     
  14. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    IMO its just joshua
    he won the london olympics which showcased him to 20 million uk sports fans

    this gave him a much bigger fanbase than every uk boxer

    helps that he looks the part of what the public expect heavyweight chanp to look like.

    joshua has crossover appeal to non boxing fans hence he sells out incredible venues in historical terms and does good uk ppv numbers.

    at the same time it hurts the sport because instead of 10 million watching his fights on bbc he is getting a tenth on PPV albeit financially ppv makes much more sense.

    boxing was way bigger in the uk in the 1980s than it is now but then you had 3 channels when bruno/mcgugigan/minter /magri fought so the 15 million they got would have been way way diluted with the 800 channels plus everyone has at there fingertips now.

    but no one in my lifetime has put bums on seats like joshua
     
  15. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ODLH should get a healthy portion of the blame.