If I was advising Wilder I would hold out a couple of years

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  1. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Im sure they do, so why are they having to give tickets to his fights away for free? Why are the networks moaning and threatening to not actually take up Wilder fights? Why is he not making use of all those things you just said? Why are these super clever managers with all that stuff to play not already doing any of it and really maximising their income with their all American unbeaten knockout artist world champion?
     
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  2. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In two years, Wilder will be 45-0 (with 44 KOs). He'll have a dozen WBC title defenses under his belt. He'll be closing in on 50-0.

    And, in two years, Joshua won't have any of the belts. He'll have about 24 wins. And he won't be undefeated.
     
  3. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    By 2020 this fight doesnt happen mate

    The likelihood of them both still being undefeated belt holders by then and being 1 and 2 in the division are remote to none.

    HW boxing has a funny habit of surprising you, just when you think everything is settled or almost settled

    We have Usyk and Gassiev about to step up, plus other contenders ready to step into the void left by those who have retired. Also losses happen at the most suprising times.
     
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  4. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is this what Wilders delusional fans really tell themselves? That fighting top 5 oponents and unifying back to back until you take a loss is worse than fight top 15-30 oppnents and staying unbeaten?

    Wilder will become the American Ottke at this rate.
     
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  5. RockyMarciano

    RockyMarciano Well-Known Member Full Member

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    In two years both will have losses and nobody will care about the fight anymore. Fight now while it will sell...or...don't live up to your potential.
     
  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm sure Wilder will find "a couple Charles Martins and Joseph Parkers" to fight to pick up a few more belts over the coming years, like Joshua did.
     
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  7. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    I agree Wilder really needs to be looking to step up the level of competition, Martin and Parker tick that box.
     
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  8. liger1992

    liger1992 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You speak as if beating nobodies actually means something.
     
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  9. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You were just praising Joshua for beating two of those nobodies. Can't have it both ways, brother. The only two reigning champs Joshua has beaten were Charles Martin and Joseph Parker. Like I said, I'm sure Wilder will find a couple guys of that stature to beat in the coming years for some additional belts.

    It sure made all the Brits think Joshua was something special.
     
  10. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When you group Martin in the same category as Parker it just comes off as salty.
     
  11. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    Al Haymon has found an ants nest near Wilder's house and he's registering some of the biggest ones with the WBC.

    Sulaiman is happy because the sanctioning fees will come in handy.

    Expect wilder to become the first boxer to reach 1million victories without loss in the next couple of years as long as he doesn't trip over the loose step in his backyard...
     
  12. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    I don't think AJ will miss out by not fighting Wilder, he makes big money fighting guys like Takam plus he will have other big fights against Fury, possibly Haye and of course Whyte rematch..

    These fights probs will make him more money than a Wilder fight given Wilder isn't very well know in the UK and hasn't really do anything to improve his profile...

    Wilder on the other hand isn't using all that Vegas money or the massive US PPV market to his advantage for some reason so until he start to use all the tools available to him he doesn't have any other options for a big fight...
     
  13. The Mighty One

    The Mighty One Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I didn't say all it requires is their connection. . . .It has to be further built into a mega bout and it isn't there yet. Thats why I say it will take a couple of years to build. Mayweather and Pacquiao both were built into super stars but not until after they were both champions.. . . .One thing that should be done is publicity as Wilder starts nearing 50 wins. It would be a similar watch as was the home run marks of Babe Ruth's and Roger Maris'.. . . .fan interest and publicity built as it got closer. Wilder could even go on a "bum-of-the-month" club like both Joe Louis and Muhammad Ali once did and fight on free network television a few times.
     
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  14. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wilder is at risk of losing his WBC strap even to the most cherry picked opponent. Once he gets KO'd his financial value will implode rather quickly. Parker realized that risk and quickly cashed out. Wilder's low IQ prevents him from understanding this fact.
     
  15. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    As opposed to his last 40 fights??