JOSHUA VS POVETKIN FINALIZED DEAL THIS WEEK?!?!

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Deontay Wilder HAS NEVER WEIGHED 230 pounds OR MORE FOR ANY FIGHT.

    Not in 40 pro fights. Not in 35 amateur fights.

    Not in any fight. Ever!!!

    And weight divisions aren't broken up by HEIGHT or REACH.

    They are "WEIGHT" divisions.

    Go away.

    You don't know anything about boxing.

    If you can't beat everyone, then you aren't the heavyweight champion.

    That's why they've always said in boxing: "There's the heavyweight division ... and all the others." Because, in the others, you only have to be able to beat guys within a few pounds of you. At heavyweight, the weight is unlimited. You have to be able to beat EVERYONE.

    If a guy is a little too tall for you or a little too heavy for you ... and you don't think that's fair ... then you probably aren't going to become the heavyweight champ ... or, if you do, you won't hold it for long.
     
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  2. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I meant to say more than 225 pounds. Also, height and reach can compensate for a lack of weight in the heavyweight division. A 220 pound, 6 foot 7 heavyweight with an 83 inch reach is usually going to be more dangerous and successful than a 6 foot 0 heavyweight who is also 220 pounds but has a 70 inch reach.

    Anyway, I've already conceded that I don't definitively consider Deontay Wilder a super heavyweight. I'm not sure what your point is.

    I'm not here to follow your commands. Ergo, I'm not going anywhere. I challenge you to make me!

    None of your points explains why there shouldn't be more weight divisions above 200 pounds, when there are multiple weight divisions from 100 - 200 pounds. What's the logical reason for having an unlimited weight division after 200 pounds? Why not have an unlimited weight division after 160 pounds? Heck, why not just an open single weight division altogether?
     
  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Because the heavyweight champion is supposed to be able to beat everyone.

    None of the other champs are expected to do that.

    A middleweight champ is only supposed to be able to beat men from 155 to 160 pounds. That's it!

    And if his opponent fails to make weight, the opponent CAN'T win the title.

    Same with ALL THOSE OTHER divisions. You are only expected to defend against people within a very small window. You aren't expected to beat anyone bigger. Not as much is expected of you.

    At heavyweight, the rules are different. You're supposed to be able to beat everyone. The weigh-in is for betting purposes only. You can weigh whatever you want. As the champ at heavyweight, you're also expected to be able to beat everyone regardless of their weight.

    BECAUSE you are the heavyweight champion. That's why it's the top prize.

    That's the WHOLE POINT!!!

    Jesus Christ.

    Did you literally start watching boxing this month?
     
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  4. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That was precisely my question! What is the scientific / logical reason / basis for allowing a fight with a specific size difference at heavyweight, but not allowing fights with the same size difference in lower weight divisions?

    Why should a boxer weighing over 200 pounds, 'EXPECTED' to beat anybody of any size / weight whilst someone who weighs below 200 pounds isn't? What is the logical / scientific / mathematical basis for the magic number to be 200 pounds at when a boxer is 'expected' to beat anybody of any size and weight? Why not 250 pounds? Why not 300 pounds? Why not 150 pounds?

    Why is a boxer weighing 130 pounds, not allowed to face an opponent weighing 150 pounds, when a 230 pound boxer is allowed to face an opponent who weighs 250 pounds?

    All I ask for is consistency! If a 130 pound boxer shouldn't be allowed to face a 150 pound boxer, then a 250 pound boxer should receive no credit for beating an opponent weighing 230 pounds.
     
  5. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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  6. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Unfortunately lacks the necessary size and physical strength. Needs the juice that Juice-man Joshua (Juicua) consumes to artificially become as big as Joshua in order to compete at an even playing field.
     
  7. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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  8. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Sasha, Bomaye :ggg
     
  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Great fight this. Parker, Povetkin and Wilder back to back. Looks like AJ does mean business.
     
  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think it could be a tougher match up due to styles also
     
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  11. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Thanks AJ. Your acting like the champion.

    Could be the best fight out there.
     
  12. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Was Wladimir Klitschko on the juice to get big as well? If Vitali wasn't thrown out of the Olympics , Wlad was going to compete at HW. Before Atlanta he competed at HW , not SHW.
     
  13. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Probably / most likely! Pretty much everyone is on some kind of 'juice' or another in the 21st century. Especially and even more so elite level athletes!
     
  14. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Mariuz Wach and Dom Brazzele would be knocked out by 200 pound Joe Louis.
     
  15. anjawnaymiz

    anjawnaymiz Can we get Ivan Dychko some momentum Full Member

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    so is this getting finalized today or what?