(Poll) Is GGG Ducking Dchenko?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Lazar, Apr 20, 2018.


Duck? Yes or No.

  1. Duck

    30.8%
  2. Not a Duck

    69.2%
  1. Lazar

    Lazar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It’s a duck. I tried justifying it but couldn’t come up with a good reason.

    Most common excuse is that GGG wouldn’t have enough time to prepare on short notice. So? Does every unscheduled MW prepares year round for GGG on short notice? Dchenko would have to deal with the same surprise element. Squashed.

    Another excuse, well not an excuse but a deflection is that this is all Canelo’s fault. ***** please, sure he ruined the rematch but the IBF mandatory is completely separate issue. Nothing to do with Canelo. If GGG is held to a champion’s standard then guess what? Sometimes you have to answer mandatory calls when the original fight falls through. Squashed.

    I’ve never criticized GGG but this is too much. Denying Dchenko his shot while picking a 2 year inactive, 154lber, coming off of a loss? That was too much to swollow.

    Anyway, what say you, ESBers?
     
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  2. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Didn't read..
     
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  3. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    No Duck. Just an unfortunate set of events for all involved bar Canelo....
     
  4. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    @Lazar

    I would have voted yes, but instead I didn't vote because I recently heard from several good sources that Di Bella / Team Derevyanchenko changed their minds about wanting to step in when they saw the short money involved due to moving off PPV and the venue change.

    Instead, they want the mandatory to be enforced straight after the May fight, or Golovkin stripped so that Derevyanchenko can gain the belt and get a lucrative unification at some point.

    Of course, that doesn't change the fact that Team Golovkin didn't want the fight themselves, but that's not a full duck by any means.
     
  5. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    This has all been explained very clearly by Loeffler. They’re not opposed to fighting Derevychenko. But feel he’s a serious opponent and they need more than three weeks to obtain the venue, set up the PPV, line up the broadcasters and commercial endorsements, prepare the promotion, and yes, train for this opponent. Currently all that’s available is HBO non-PPV at a small venue with almost no promotion and training for this opponent.

    Now, if they had 4 months, would Derevychenko be their first option as an opponent? That’s doubtful. You can call that a duck, but honestly who is Derevychenko compared to BJS, Canelo or even a Jacobs rematch? And what makes anyone think a properly prepared GGG loses to him?
     
  6. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    No dount SD is a quality fighter, but he's high risk, low reward. Golovkin wouldn't get ANY credit anyways if he beat him or knocked him out. They'd say SD had a month to prepare on short notice.
     
  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    100% a duck. He didn't have to fight on May 5th and he didn't have to fight Vanes but he chose to.

    He has no association to May 5th , that was Canelo's date but he hijacked it so he wouldn't have to reschedule and fight somebody better.

    He had to move his fight to the Sub hub center cos he couldn't hold down the venue or another venue in Vegas , but if GGG pulled out , Nelo would still likely have fought somebody else in the T Mobile arena.

    He used a Mexican holiday - which has no relevance to a Kazakh vs an Armenian - as an excuse to duck , and will seek out the Canelo rematch in Sept to duck a second time.

    But he could still have fought this guy on May 5th without rescheduling .. If he iwas good enough to fight Canelo - a top P4P , then he should be good enough to fight his mandatory.
     
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  8. Lazar

    Lazar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Had it been BJS, Jacobs 2 or anyone similar I’d be fine with it. But Vanes? Cmon, man. We get nothing out of this fight, nothing.
     
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  9. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I just don't get the Vanes fight and I'm a big GGG fan. Very disappointing. If Vanes was an active 160 guy, I would understand it. But a 154 guy who has been inactive for 2 years?
     
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  10. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Yes. Quite obviously, imo.
     
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  11. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Can't say since apparently HBO only offered $1Mil which if that's true it's not a legit offer to face a dangerous guy like that.

    I think he should have fought him but then looking at that offer you can't blame him.
     
  12. 22JM

    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, it's obvious!
     
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  13. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    All the tickets had to be refunded and the PPV model had to be abolished , so there was no reason at all to keep the May 5th date.

    Had Golovkin been big enough to hold down the arena and the PPV , then keeping the date would have been pivotal , but he isn't so latching himself on to May 5th doesn't justify this fight.
     
  14. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Yes he dudkced him for Vanes because the risk was too high.
     
  15. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Source?