Virgil Hill - Dynamic Left Hand

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  1. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    A good Virgil Hill vid...
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  2. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Seems like Ive been sleeping on Hill a little bit. I don't ever remember being this impressed with the torque, delivery, speed and accuracy of his punches, but then again I've only watched his biggest fights (Hearns, RJJ, Maske, Mormeck and Michaelszewski) It's a shame he didn't fight any of these guys when he was a little bit younger as it appears to me that he had the tools to become a household name in boxing. Just imagine how hyped this guy would be if he was an up and coming fighter with the exposure boxing has now. Cheers for this one Cobra, Thats one more name added to a long list of fighters that need revisiting.
     
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  3. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Web, with all due respect, Hill was undefeated and 27 when Tommy beat him, and Tommy lost his next fight to Barkley. Virgil may have been past his best when he lost to the others, but he was prime when he lost to Tommy. He lost all of his big fights. I am of the train of thought that Virgil was overrated, and, had he fought in the Saad, Spinks, Qawi era, we would not even be having this discussion.
     
  4. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I guess they don't call it a highlight real for nothing. Apart from his loss to Roy all his other big fights were close, like I said I'll need to go back and check out some of his other fights. I guess it's a lot easier to look good when you're fighting over matched opponents. Thank you for the honesty
     
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  5. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And I appreciate yours. Thanks
     
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  6. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cheers. Agree to disagree.
     
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  7. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    I like Virgil as a noble guy and a terrific rep for the sport but seriously he was very very lucky that he did not fight in a challenging era .. I see him clearly losing to Saad Muhammad, Mustafa Muhammad, Dwight Qwai, Marvin Johnson, Michael Spinks, John Conteh, Victor Galindez, Jones ( he did ) , Toney and many, many others .. he caught a window and exploited it ...
     
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  8. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Webbiano, I agree with you here...I liked Hill and generally pulled for him to win...but like another fighter I liked, Jimmy Ellis, I always thought that there was "something missing" with Hill...a certain lack of substance somehow.
     
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  9. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't think Virgil would have fared too well with Galindez, Eddie Mustafa or Qawi, just for starters...but I always liked Hill and wanted him to win.
     
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  10. Saintpat

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    He was criminally underappreciated in his time. And he decided when he reached a certain point to fight anyone, anytime, anywhere. Nothing but respect.
     
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  11. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's completely true!
     
  12. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Very good fighter. Tiozzo and Maske are impressive wins. He did disappoint against Michalchweski though.
     
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    I don't know if he was under appreciated .. he got to fight on national television many times .. he just happened to be a very boring fighter at 175. How many 12 round decisions can you watch from a one handed fighter ? It wasn't like he toiled in obscurity. He was boring. He also lost decisively as the defending champion against a blown up Thomas Hearns that had been crushed by Hagler and Barkley at 160 and that limited the respect the public had for him.
     
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  14. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Hill does well in most eras.. I think his problem is his lack of a right hand, which showed against the best guy he fought Hearns kind of outclassed him at 175
     
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  15. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I am a bit surpised of the recollection of some posters of the Hearns-Hill fight. This was a close fight in my view. I had Hearns up by two.
     
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