AJ and Hearn got played hard by uncle Al

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by AJfan, Apr 26, 2018.


  1. AJfan

    AJfan Member banned Full Member

    396
    453
    Mar 18, 2018
    Are you trying to say that if Al Haymon gives AJ a $50mn guarantee he will then go back on it if the fight doesn't make enough money? If so, why? Al has never stiffed a fighter and you just stated yourself that he lost money overpaying fighters in the past. All Hearn needs to do is get a signed contract and AJ's life is changed forever.
     
  2. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,398
    2,043
    May 22, 2017
    And how has the magical Haymon helped Wilders career... Thurmans.... Stevensons?...

    Other than Floyd... Where else was he generating huge money?
     
  3. AJfan

    AJfan Member banned Full Member

    396
    453
    Mar 18, 2018
    Who cares? If AJ gets a contract guaranteeing him $50mn, why do you care if Al Haymon makes money or not?
     
  4. Blancrabello

    Blancrabello Member Full Member

    303
    255
    Aug 8, 2016
    Wilder Vs Breazeale and AJ Vs Povetkin. This is just foreplay to build the eventual fight. Wilder is trying desperately to build his profile as the more he can get to watch him Vs Breazeale the more he can bargain for.
     
  5. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

    7,618
    6,476
    Apr 6, 2016
    No I am not saying that. I am saying they are not offering $50 mil unless the numbers say they will make enough money so everyone get paid and they make a profit.

    Like I said last night I am waiting for the devil in the detail. This 24hour deadline when a meeting is scheduled for Friday for example makes me think its nothing but a PR move.
     
  6. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

    9,483
    8,778
    Sep 27, 2016
    Thurman was unified champion of the welterweight division before having to vacate due to injuries. Unless you think Al haymon can prevent his fighters from getting hurt in car accidents.

    Stevenson is a pimp who can't be saved.

    As for Wilder, he's helping him put 50 million offers in the bag.
     
    Bonecrusher and AJfan like this.
  7. AJfan

    AJfan Member banned Full Member

    396
    453
    Mar 18, 2018
    You sound like Eddie Hearn himself. Grow a brain. Wilder makes much more if he fights Breazeale after he KO's AJ twice and establishes himself as a PPV star. Think it through.
     
    Blancrabello likes this.
  8. AJfan

    AJfan Member banned Full Member

    396
    453
    Mar 18, 2018
    If Haymon now doesn't come up with a $50mn guarantee in the contract I fully agree with you. But when has he or his organisation ever done anything like that? Al has zero track record of lying to fighters or screwing them out of money. If this was Frank Warren making a $50mn offer I would see your point, but it's Al Haymon.

    If you think Deyontay Wilder sent this email without speaking to Al you're mad.
     
    Last edited: Apr 26, 2018
  9. Blancrabello

    Blancrabello Member Full Member

    303
    255
    Aug 8, 2016
    I dislike AJ and his so called "brand" as much as you. He's a glass jawed fraud. The heavyweight division is a wasteland. That's just how I see it. I don't like wilder either but he's got serious difficulty selling himself as he is clearly an outspoken fool and he's been knocking over far too many cans. Something I seem to be able to do is to push my emotions to the side and look at it dispassionately. Both Hearn and Haymon know this can be a huge fight but the first thing that needs to happen is wilder needs to get a fan or two. Or you know, sell out a stadium. This is how maximising profit works. I myself will be looking forward to a real fight. Gassiev Vs Usyk
     
    Bluewhorl likes this.
  10. AJfan

    AJfan Member banned Full Member

    396
    453
    Mar 18, 2018
    Your original point was dog crap and your backtrack is equally so. I do however fully agree on Gassiev-Usyk. If there was any justice in boxing that would be a $100mn+ fight.
     
    Bonecrusher and Blancrabello like this.
  11. Cally

    Cally Sand...sand... nothing but sand! Full Member

    1,728
    2,008
    Sep 12, 2015
    Some of the comments in here.. Lol.. You do know Matchroom = the biggest promotion company on the planet., right?

    Lol
     
    UniversalPart likes this.
  12. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

    14,570
    11,727
    Jul 1, 2010
    How? The fight will be broadcast in the UK on a PPV platform from Sky via Matchroom's organising. Joshua has TV rights with Sky to broadcast his fights. Hearn and Sky cannot be sidestepped here.

    Do you really think Eddie Hearn has been mugged off and will get nothing out of this? He has less work to do and perhaps will end up with a slightly lower comission but he is still getting paid.
     
  13. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

    14,570
    11,727
    Jul 1, 2010
    Why? Says who? Nobody knows who they are outside of regular boxing fans.

    The tournament has been promoted. The fighters are barely known.
     
  14. Blancrabello

    Blancrabello Member Full Member

    303
    255
    Aug 8, 2016
    Enjoy your hate for a man you don't know. But do you realise you really hate yourself?

    The fight makes more money if wilder can sell himself in the next year. That's all there is to know.
     
  15. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

    7,618
    6,476
    Apr 6, 2016
    Which I think is why Hearn said he wants guaranteed the money is there now. Not an offer and then try and raise the the money. They will want it guaranteed and I assume would want it placed in an escrow account.