Canelo popped for Clenbuterol

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Is Canelo Alvarez deliberately cheating?

  1. Canelos a clean fighter

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  2. Clenelo is juicing

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  3. Who gives a flying ****??

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  1. IsaL

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    Come on guy, think of all the top athletes who have ever failed a drug test, how little their failed test impacted their status.

    Vitali Klitschko and Roy Jones Jr just to name a couple.

    Besides, sorry to rain on your party but a hair follicle test just cleared Canelo of foul play.

    Sowey.
     
  2. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It didn't clear him they already admitted that the test was unreliable.that testing for clen would be difficult and even more difficult with light hair.. So no he wasn't cleared by any stretch of the imagination. they took a test that the lab admitted may not work. How TF is that being cleared?
     
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    Sorry to rain on your party but...

    "We initiated the test to be as comprehensive as possible but knowing it's very difficult, according to the experts," Bennett said. "It's a difficult process to be able to confirm whether there is clenbuterol in the hair follicles, but I talked to SMRTL president and laboratory director Dr. Michael Eichner and he said they'd run the test even though it is even more difficult to run on light-colored hair. But we sent them the samples and the tests came back negative."

    You really do live in la la land if you think that result is in any way conclusive.
     
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    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If that 'evidence' was presented in a court of law it would be discredited to inadmissibility in seconds.

    Even their own expert calls the result into question.
     
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  5. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is there any wonder why goldenboy issued this press release while trying to downplay this part of it lol
     
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  6. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yeah, hardy definitive evidence of innocence unless you are a complete homer.
     
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    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It proves nothing and they would be as aware of that as anybody else.
     
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  8. IsaL

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    Read the article buddy. Canelo haters have stated multiple times without proof that Canelo has been using PEDs and cycling them off, but his hair follicle test came back negative. A hair follicle test would come back positive if he would have used clenbeturol for an extended period, and if It was a single incident, such as with meat consumption it would likely come back negative.

    Canelo has always tested clean leading up to the failed tests in Feb. Canelo has tested clean there after. Canelo tested negative of PEDs in his hair follicle test.. Yet you still CHOOSE to believe he's a PED cheat.. Nothing is going to change your mind, you're a hater.
     
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    yeah but it allows them to publish a misleading title to the article in the hopes that people wouldn't actually read the contents and would assume from the headline that he was cleared. and judging by Isal's reply as well as some of the comments on ESPN not everybody reads the whole article.
     
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  10. IsaL

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    90 tests and Canelo tests clean for every single one.
    Fails 2 tests with trace amounts of clenbeturol in Feb.
    Tests clean for 4 more tests in March and April. And tests negative for PEDs in hair follicle test.

    The article also states that if used over an extended period of time as the GGGoons and haters suggest then the hair follicle test would come back with clenbeturol.

    It also states if clenbeturol consumption was a single isolated incident such as consumption of tainted meat, the test would likely be negative.

    Most everything points to Canelo being innocent of foul play.

    But hey, if it makes you feel better, go ahead and call him a drug cheat.
     
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  11. IsaL

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    Awww... You want him to be a cheat so bad.. But all you have are two back to back tests in February with trace amounts "consistent with the consumption of meat".

    While Canelo has over 90 tests where he has tested clean including a hair follicle test.

    You can wish and hope and believe he is a drug cheat all you want.

    I'll continue to appreciate his craft and his warrior mentality to fight the best.
     
  12. like a boss

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    We searched for a needle in a haystack. We didn't think we would find it, and sure enough we didn't.
     
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  13. kriszhao

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    his/her hair test might return a positive. would be more likely to remain would almost certainly
    It doesn't prove anything only that it suggests
    lol even in the quotes it does not state he is clean
    in the same article, you quoted it goes on to say
    "We initiated the test to be as comprehensive as possible but knowing it's very difficult, according to the experts," Bennett said. "It's a difficult process to be able to confirm whether there is clenbuterol in the hair follicles, but I talked to SMRTL president and laboratory director Dr. Michael Eichner and he said they'd run the test even though it is even more difficult to run on light-colored hair. But we sent them the samples and the tests came back negative."
    so where exactly does any of this prove he is clean again? by their own statement, the testing not reliable and they cannot even tell for sure if clen was in his hair or not.
     
  14. kriszhao

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    pretty much sums it up.
     
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    Best not tell people the first part though. Lest they get the true picture.
     
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