Canelo popped for Clenbuterol

You lost. Get over it douchebag.

 

The fans that demanded it did so because they thought Canelo had something to hide, and since they believed he was cheating, they thought Canelo would not submit a hair sample because if he was cheating like they thought he was (taking clenbuterol pharmacologically over a long period of time, then cylcing off it) there is a good likelihood that the hair sample would come back positive.

Well it didn't, and now you're quoting Bob Bennett (the same person who many of your comrades say is corrupt) who is talking about the difficult process of testing hair follicles. And more importantly, the fans who demanded that Canelo submit a hair follicle for testing probably didn't think Canelo actually would. If you were using clenbuterol over a long period of time pharmacologically, and were cylcing off it, or using any banned substances intentionally, surely you would be very worried about submitting a hair follicle test as that can test positive for banned substances over a much longer period of time. Canelo going the extra mile and having the hair follicle test come back negative is just further evidence that Canelo is a clean fighter if there was any doubt.

You can be sure that if the hair follicle test came back positive, you'd see that result as undeniable proof that Canelo was cheating over a long period of time. So then it's really only an unreliable method when the result comes back negative.

 

That means it's inconclusive. There's a handful of test that WADA doesn't use or dropped like the hair follicle test or the plasticizer test. The hair follicle test is actually not hard to **** with. Drink lots of water and use cleansing shampoos or aloe which will penetrate the hair follicle, etc etc.

 

They discredited their own test. The result is inconclusive. End of story.

 

Over 90 tests negative including a hair follicle tests.

2 back to back failed tests with trace amounts of clenbeturol "consistent with consumption of contaminted meat".

 

I never said anything about how reliable the test was. As you know, many fans were demanding Canelo submit a hair follicle test. The fact that he provided it for testing only helps his case that he is clean and the clenbuterol was from meat contamination. But, to your point, it doesn't prove anything conclusively.

Look at it this way, we are trying to determine whether Canelo is guilty of wrongdoing, of taking a banned substance intentionally, of cheating, particularly over a long period of time, right?

Lets say a fighter was cheating over a long period of time (like many of his naysayers have argued Canelo has been doing). If you were actually taking banned substances and cycling off them when it comes time for testing, then submitting a hair follicle could find something particularly if you were using a substance regularly. (as many have argued or believe Canelo was doing)

So as inconclusive as the hair follicle test may be (like some have argued that if you shampoo your hair a lot it could get rid of toxins - whether that is true or not I don't know) still if he really was cheating and using banned substances to the extent that many think he did, and cycling off them come testing time, there's a chance that the hair test would test positive for something clenbuterol or otherwise. Bottom line is that many who believe Canelo was cheating demanded this test. If they didn't know how unreliable the test was, that's their issue. Canelo did the test his many of his haters wanted him to do thinking that it would show that Canelo had been using clenbuterol over a long period of time. It coming back negative is just another piece of information that suggest that it was meat contamination. (suggests, not "proves")

 

That's not how anti doping works. You don't put in work to try and exonerate your loverboy in the eyes of others. The guy is suspended guilty of clenbuterol in two tests. Nothing will ever change those facts. You can't clean his name up. The fact that you still try is ridiculous. Also, it's clear as day he's guilty. He didn't take up his right to defend his position. That's what lawyers are for. He could have tied his appeal up for years but he didn't. There's nothing to defend. He can't produce the source of the taint lmao.

 

The test is inconclusive and therefore irrelevant. It doesn't prove guilt or innocence.

 

The sheer desperation of playing such a flawed card and pretending it was a trump.

Even the people who performed the test cast doubts over the result.

You could not possibly be stupid enough to think that test proved anything.

 

well with regard to clenbuterol, a positive hair follicle test for clenbuterol may be more indicative of cheating since it dates back further. I agree that a negative hair follicle test doesn't prove innocence, particularly if you have short hair I'd imagine. But a positive hair follicle test would have been very damaging to Canelo's credibility and the clenbuterol coming from meat contamination and would probably go a long way to convincing people that he was cheating.

Just imagine if the hair follicle test came back positive. You know many people who wanted the hair test would claim it proves he was cheating.

 

What you seem to be missing is that the demand for the hair follicle test came from those who thought Canelo was cheating. (not from IsaL or myself) So IsaL saying it "clears" Canelo may be a bit much, but I wouldn't say it's completely irrelevent either. It wouldn't have been irrelevent had it come back positive! It's only irrelevent now because it came back negative. It was certainly relavent a few weeks ago when many posters on here wanted his hair to be tested.

It clears him from the argument that Canelo's naysayers were making that a hair sample could be used to determine whether he was using clenbuterol or other banned substances regularly over a longer period of time, then cycling off them when it came time for testing.

 

He's already guilty and suspended.

 

Correct and the hair follicle test proved nothing.

 

How so?

According to Dopeology.org, which extensively covers doping in professional cycling, "Clenbuterol, like many other substances, accumulates in very small amounts in hair follicles. If an athlete has taken the substance over a period of time in the past, his/her hair test might return a positive for a period of six months or longer. Conversely, if the clenbuterol resulted from a single incident, in which the subject had eaten meat for example, a hair test would almost certainly be negative."


I would think that pretty much clears Alvarez of any wrong doing as far as knowingly using Clenbuterol as a PED.

 

you mean all we have are two positive tests for a zero tolerance banned substance and his subsequent suspension for it.
you mean a hair follicle test where the lab admitted it would be difficult to detect if Clen was in his hair with their test and even more difficult due to him having light hair... and you are vindicated by that somehow?
as like like a boss said Canelos hair follicle test was the equivalent of.
"We searched for a needle in a haystack. We didn't think we would find it, and sure enough, we didn't."
Canelo has more positive tests then Shannon Briggs. Briggs has passed drug tests too before testing dirty so by your infallible logic he must of have been clean throughout his whole career since you know he has passed several drug test before.
Remind me of how many tests did Lance Armstrong pass since apparently passing tests means you are a clean athlete.
And do you know how easy you can pass a drug test when you are only tested between the dates of your choosing?
Canelo failed because someone in his camp effed up with his cycle dates and he got caught now he has to pay the price.