Whyte v Ortiz?

Whyte was never made mandatory. Pure sexual power move by Haymon

 

By out boxing him

As said before. By out boxing. Its not all about KOs and Whyte has now recovered from his injury and as shown against the undefeated former world champ Brown, can punch when required

Why do you say that? You just said Whyte is featherfisted but if that is the case, then it shows he can box otherwise he would not be winning fights

What makes you think Whyte would be stopped? M Scott wasnt and I think Whyte is a harder puncher and better boxer than him.

I dont discredit any boxer but dont rate Ortiz as highly as I think you do

 

I think sometimes when a fighter takes many punches in a certain fight that they lose some of the durability that they once had

 

"undefeated former world champ Brown"...lmao.
Brown looked like ****, he looked completly shot and done in the fight vs Whyte. You can put lipstick on the pig but it doesn't look better after. Ortiz would have knocked Browne out in the first round of the fight, i guarantee you that 100%.

I said Whyte is featherfisted FOR A HW.
Why he is winning fights? Because he fought bums most of the time.
Shot, slow, old Browne.
Shot, slow, old Helenius.
Malcom Tann lol.
Shot, slow, old Chisora who was robbed by the way and lost to Kabayel after that.
Ian Lewison
David Allen
Ivica Bacurin
Fat, old, slow Brian Minto. lol.
Come on...this must be a joke rating Whyte as high as you do with beating those names.

The only good name in Whytes resume is AJ.

M Scott was knocked down three times and started running away from Ortiz in the fight. Ortiz won every single round out there vs Scott and Scott wasn't stopped because - as i wrote - he ran away. Why should Ortiz risk anything in the late rounds as he knocked him down three times, won every round and was winning on the cards comfortably.

But i discredit you, because you have no clue about HW boxing rating Whyte that high. Whyte is no bum for sure, but he is no legit Top 5 HW but Ortiz is.

Ortiz will win 9 of 10 fights vs Whyte. Whyte has never dealed with a world class southpaw with power, genious ring iq and insane boxing skills. Of course he is looking good vs some fat and slow bums.

I only can say, (re)watch the Ortiz/Wilder fight and tell me how Whyte should outbox Luis King Kong Ortiz. This is impossible. Wilder is a much bigger man+much faster than Whyte and he was not able to outbox Ortiz who was outboxing Wilder in the fight. If the same Ortiz like in March shows up vs Whyte Ortiz will win by wide UD or a stoppage. I prefer the stoppage because Whyte will have the judges on his side as he had them vs Chisora.

And everyone who is saying Ortiz is slow ....REWATCH the fight and tell me Ortiz is slow. Ortiz is fast as ****, has unreal fast hands and as i wrote several times he might not be moving that fast but he has not to because he has a smart way to move and a genious ring iq. Not necessary.

 

the browne win was nothign really, browne was basically a shoe salesman at that point, worthless.

 

Every single Top 50 HW out there would have beaten Browne. I just checked the Top 50 HW rankings and i can not see any of those names losing to the version of Browne that showed up one month ago.

 

Why you laughing? Its a greater win than any that Ortiz has and arguably Wilder

Ortiz who went the distance with M Scott?
Brown didnt look good because Whyte looked so good. Lets just cast our minds back a few months ago and recall how many picked Brown to beat Whyte lol. Thats right and wouldnt be shocked if you were on that bandwagon as well.
Brown has a win over Chagaev. Tell me what win Ortiz has which is as good... You cant

A KO percentage of 71% doesnt look bad and so what if he is not a massive puncher. He is still getting wins

You note Chisora losing after the Whyte fight but what were the big fights that Ortiz had where the opponent wasnt coming off a recent loss?

Whyte fought Allen in his 19th fight. Ortiz fights the same Allen after he lost to Whyte in his 29th fight
You tied yourself up there
You are comparing a fighter who has had more fights as if that means something and then trip over yourself with this lol

Yet the Brown win is better than any of Ortiz wins

Which is why I would favour Whyte who can box and move. You have noted here that Ortiz couldnt close the gap to catch Scott who Chisora took the 0 of in 6 rounds

Did I write that Whyte was top 5?

Neither has Ortiz who doesnt have a win as good as Whytes over Brown

Ortiz doesnt fight like a fired up Chisora and doubt he would have gone the distance with Vitali like chisora did.
Whyte and Wilder are different fighters. You think because Wilder was being outboxed by Ortiz that Whyte would? And you discredit me and my knowledge.
Lets see your boxing prediction threads where you have made a fight prediction and I will bring up mine and we can compare.

Dont necessarily disagree with that but as you note with a mover like Scott and Ortiz didnt look great and Whyte can move and box with more offence as well as being able to go 12 rounds at a pace

Not sure if the fight will happen but I favour Whyte if it does

 

Think Brown would have beaten several of them including Adamek and Stiverne.
then again, Brown may not be the same fighter after the Whyte loss

 

Saying Lucas Browne is a better win than Bryant Jennings is disqualifying yourself for any further discussion.

LMAO.

 

Lol seems like you’re a fan of Mr Ortiz

 

If Ortiz is what he was, he wins comfortably vs Whyte.

 

Kong has an absolutely stunning style of boxing. World class educated southpaw stance boxer, prob the best counter puncher in the division. For his age and body mass he is moving smoothly, agile and his ring iq is one of the best in the game.

I would love to see him fighting a big name in the near future after the Wilder fight.

I mean look at his last fights before he fought Wilder, he did not have a training camp before and he was in completly demolishion mode. If he is still hungry and has something left (No doubt as he is fighting for his family) then he will beat everyone out there apart from AJ/DW.

 

He’s certainly a top player in HW division

 

Ir Old Man Oritz does not run out of gas he could beat Whyte, but he needs to go get his social security check before the fight................

 

True but seeing him interact with media i don't think that's the case.

Izu did far more damage than AJ did in those 5 rounds bc he was trying to finish the fight...

I believe Breazeale will be a legit threat!