Crawford's resume grows more suspect

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  1. dougemerypm

    dougemerypm Active Member Full Member

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    Almost no one gets to go right to the front of the line like Lomo. Crawford had to fight with NO promoter and get "discovered" as a sparing partner. To somehow denigrate his path to championships is stupid and he has made the most of his opportunities. Who has pressed Crawford in any of his championship fights?
     
  2. Manfred

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    It don't matter who I was for in the beginning but when I see BS, I call it no matter who it is and I am calling you out on bs. You know exactly what I'm talking about and if you don't, go back and pull up the original post and play catchup cause you behind.
     
  3. dougemerypm

    dougemerypm Active Member Full Member

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    Sadly no matter who Crawford fights and who he beats the doubters will doubt and the haters will hate. The kid has simply dominated anyone they have put in front of him. And the talkers like Danny Garcia, Mikey Garcia and Broner just talk.
     
  4. dougemerypm

    dougemerypm Active Member Full Member

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    Or as fraudulent as you!!! Stupid Rising 7 is back with his blither
     
  5. bcr

    bcr Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Diaz looked out of shape and without motivation, the complete opposite of him against Crawford, Crawford was just better, Diaz has wins over fighters that are just better than Santana but he went lazy and lost a tough and close fight but I find funny how people **** on Crawford on things he can't control, back then Diaz was a contender, with a great amateur pedigree and in the minds of many, undefeated and Crawford beat him when he had to and that's what matters.
     
  6. Swollen Liver

    Swollen Liver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Again...which credible opponent has he beat. The belts were waiting for him on a silver plate. I’m not saying Crawford is not good but one thing is sure: we’ll see what he is all about at 147 and see if he deserves all this hype.
     
  7. dougemerypm

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    The fact is that both Garcias and Broner have said they "want" Crawford yet they have never signed on the bottom line. Why? Yet people on this board seem to love the Garcias and Broner and hate Crawford. Go figure
     
  8. Banana-Rama

    Banana-Rama Active Member Full Member

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    Your embarrassing yourself. You got exposed, be a man and take the L...
     
  9. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Crawford is arguably the most overrated boxer in history
     
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  10. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Crawford's bodyguard returns I see. :lol:

    We missed you!
     
  11. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And anyone who thinks a win vs Horn will be in any way a top win is deluded as well, Horn beat nobody and lost widely to Pacman after fauling him all night.
     
  12. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Anybody can point out positives or negatives to boast or tear down any resume. To imply Crawfords opponents are all weak or not credible is to admit to not being familiar with the fighters he faced and where they were ranked when he fought them.

    Postol was seen as a God on this website in the months before the Crawford fight. Not by me. But by many of you clowns now claiming he is a nobody and lame victory. Sounds silly but that isn't even an exaggeration. If you made your opinions strictly by this forums' posts, you'd have believed Postol was impossible to outbox and was going to expose a hypejob.
     
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  13. Manfred

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    I am always a man, now you should take your own advice and get you some business.
     
  14. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    There's more than enough people who scored it for Horn. You're simply trying to convince yourself or sway the mind of a new boxing fan.

    And who in the world other than Teddy Atlas scored that fight wide to Pacquiao?!

    You my friend seem the deluded one.
     
  15. Serge

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    Let me just leave this here before I depart

    No Mas Chenko's opponent's win/loss ratio

    308-27

    And 12 of those loses belong to Salido.

    Crawford's opponent's win loss ratio

    514-205

    Number of world champions fought

    Loma = 5

    Crawford = 4

    Number of times Loma has fought on the road = 11

    Crawford = 1

    And if you don't think that matters, do you think Salido would've beaten Loma in Ukraine? Of course he wouldn't have he would've been rightfully DQ'd or at the very least had multiple points deducted from his total and thus lost. Loma actually out landed him by 20 punches, but at least 30-40 of Salido's punches were South of the border, many of which so low Ray Charles could've seen them on a dark night from a mile away. Salido would not have been allowed to get away with in Loma's backyard or indeed many other neutral locations.

    World champions beaten

    In no order

    Loma

    GRJ
    Walters
    Rigoblin
    Martinez
    Sosa

    Crawford

    Postol
    Burns
    Indongo
    Gamboa

    GRJ>>Postol
    Walters>>Indongo
    Burns>>Martinez
    Rigoblin>>Gamboa

    And we still have Sosa who was robbed against Gamboa

    Crawford's best win Postol just got dropped heavily by some obscure prospect from Uzbekistan in his last fight. His opponent was so obscure that even Serge has never heard of him before. And Postol was on very wobbly legs when he hauled his ass back up off the canvas and was very lucky to make it out of the round. He came within a whisker of getting KTFO by a 14 fight novice who'd feasted on nothing but a bunch of tomato cans with records like this. Let that sink in.

    14-11-0
    14-10-0
    0-1-0
    3-12-0
    0-0-0
    6-9-0
    6-4-0
    3-6-0
    7-6-2
    0-0-0
    0-1-0
    0-0-0
    0-0-0
    0-4-0

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    That's Crawford's best win. And Postol's only claim to fame is a freak eye injury stoppage over a shot, war-weary, mentally demoralized from boxing politics and corruption ''hype job'' Lucas. And Postol held like a gay octopus for much of that fight too.

    As for one of his other best wins Indongo, I think it's very likely he's packing Namibian glass. Go look at the amount of featherfists and non punchers he'd fought before he ran into Crawford. Yes Troyanovsky hits like a truck but he didn't land a punch when he fought him.

    His 1st (and 2nd) = 15 fights (1KOs)
    3rd = 7 fights (1KOs)
    4th = 1 fight (0KOs)
    5th (and 8th) = 26 fights (2KOs)
    6th = 8 fights (0KOs)
    8th = 30 fights (3KOs)
    9th = 12 fights (0KOs)
    10th = 38 fights (8KOs)
    11th = 36 fights (19KOs)
    12th = 6 fights (0KOs)
    13th = 10 fights (3KOs)
    14th = 3 fights (0KOs)
    15th = 16 fights (3KOs)
    16th = 44 fights (16KOs)
    17th = 24 fights (9KOs)
    18th = 30 fights (13KOs)
    19th = 42 fights (15KOs)
    20th = 32 fights (15KOs)
    21st = 27 fights (23 KOs) Glass jaw Troyanovsky didn't land a punch
    22nd = 48 fights (14KOs) Burns

    Troyanovsky aside, this must be some kind of record for the amount of featherfists and non punchers a fighter has faced. If you gave them all sledgehammers it would probably take them at least a month to demolish a Wendy house between them. If I had a son who was that weak and feeble I would disown them.

    ^^^ And yet again Serge was proven correct. That Namibian stick insect's jaw is indeed forged out of pure glass

    Now let's get into one of Crawford's other best wins ie. Ricky Burns

    Let's not forget that Burns' fight prior to facing Crawford he should've lost to Beltran and in his fight prior to that he was getting schooled by Jose A Gonzalez and looked well on his way to losing before Gonzalez had to pull out with a wrist injury. Gonzalez was ahead 87-84 on all three of the judge's score cards. And in his fight after losing to Crawford, Burns lost to Zlaticanin. So if not for good fortune and corruption Burns very easily could've been on a 0-4 slump at that time.

    A fight report of Burns vs Gonzalez

    'For most of the nine rounds that their fight lasted, lightweight titleholder Ricky Burns was utterly outclassed by the largely unknown Jose Gonzalez. It was a shocking scene to see Gonzalez, who was the mandatory challenger for reasons that will remain a mystery -- because it sure had nothing to do with his barren résumé -- toying with Burns.

    Gonzalez, who had never fought anyone of remote consequence and was fighting outside of his Puerto Rican home for the first time, had traveled to the lion's den of Glasgow, Scotland, where Burns is a hero, and he took the hero to school Saturday at Emirates Arena.

    Burns' title was clearly slipping away -- just listen to the crowd grow quieter and quieter, round after round -- when, suddenly, Gonzalez simply quit on his stool after the ninth round.

    The British television commentators, who also had Burns way behind, said it might have been a hand injury. Whatever it was, that's the sort of pain you sign up for when you become a prizefighter. If you want to be a champion, it goes with the territory. Gonzalez (22-1, 17 KOs) couldn't take it, did not have what it takes to be a champion and quit. Poof. Just like that, he gave up the opportunity of a lifetime to win a world title.

    But for most of the nine rounds, Gonzalez befuddled an ineffective Burns (36-2, 11 KOs), who was as lucky to keep his title (in his third defense) as anyone is to hit the lottery. This fight wasn't so much about Burns winning it as it was about Gonzalez losing.

    Burns, the heavy favorite, showed very little and had me thinking he should be thankful he (and former promoter Frank Warren) turned down multiple overtures from fellow titleholder Adrien Broner. I always thought Broner would manhandle Burns. After seeing Burns against Gonzalez, I'm sure of it.

    By the third round, Burns was bleeding from the nose. He was being easily beaten to the punch as Gonzalez showed a really nice variety of punches -- uppercuts, body shots and right hands. He didn't even really use his best punch, the left hook, much.

    Gonzalez had big fifth and sixth rounds, backing Burns into the ropes and hurting him with repeated blows. At this point in the fight, it seemed not really a matter of whether Gonzalez would stop him, just when. But I will give Burns a bit of credit here. He is experienced and has heart and obviously knew he was trailing. He let it all hang out in the seventh round, which will go down as a round of the year candidate.

    They went toe to toe. They were both hurt and they were both in trouble at different times. It was a blistering round, and it clearly took more out of Gonzalez than Burns.

    "He caught me with a few good shots, and I just decided to stand my ground and trade back with him. That's all I could do," Burns said after the fight about Round 7.

    Burns mounted a comeback in the eighth and ninth rounds, his best of the fight, as Gonzalez, perhaps his hand already hurt, looked dead tired and did not do very much. Still, Burns was in a deep hole when the ninth ended. And then, out of nowhere, Gonzalez quit, giving Burns the improbable victory.

    Eddie Hearn, the Matchroom Sport promoter who signed Burns before this fight after he dumped Warren, seemed relieved Burns had pulled this victory out of the fire.

    "Unbelievable courage," he said of Burns' ability to hang in there despite a very tough night.

    Then Hearn said they would be back in Scotland for Burns' next title defense in September -- a title he is very, very lucky to still call his own.'

    And many feel Burns lost against Kiryl Relikh in his fight directly before Indongo relieved him of his title too.

    Going into the Crawford fight Postol had been out of action for 10 months

    So we discredit Loma's win over Axe Man because the later had been inactive for 11 months but not Crawfords' over Postol who'd been inactive for 10 months or his win over Gamboa (which I don't recall the Crawford groupies who also happen to be Loma detractors mentioning either) who'd been inactive for 12 months?

    Another of Crawford's other best wins Felix Diaz (ie. the Olympic gold medalist who didn't even deserve his place in the final) just lost to a 24-6-1 guy who was coming off 2 losses the last of them being to a 32-6-1 journeyman

    And Gamboa got stopped by a 23-12-0 guy then won a totally robbery over Loma stoppage victim Jason Sosa lol

    And if 11 fight novice Josh Taylor beats Postol in a couple of months Crawford's resume is gonna take another huge hit
     
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