Miller vs. Vitali Klitschko

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by GGGunbeatable, Apr 29, 2018.


Who wins?

  1. Miller

  2. Vitali

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  1. BCS8

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    "All three of the judges
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitali_Klitschko_vs._Dereck_Chisora

    Dino "Yeah, Vitali really struggled with Chisora"

    ESB's perennial clown, trips over his shoelaces again.
     
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  2. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Okay Dino, here's the deal. I will show you data when requested, but you have to at least acknowledge points made. Fair enough?

    "We already knew that Klitschko, even at 40, was a dominant heavyweight champion and one of the best big men in history. Now we know he can also win a fight with one arm. Making the eighth defense of his third title reign, Ukraine's Klitschko won a rough, physical fight against England's hard-charging, but much smaller, Chisora, and he did it essentially using only his right hand.
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    The injury will not require surgery, but will likely keep Klitschko out of action until the fall, meaning he will miss a planned summer bout. The injury also left him unable to use his best weapon -- the jab -- with any serious impact. Instead, Klitschko took Chisora apart with right hand after right hand in a fight televised in the United States on Epix. "

    http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Vitali_Klitschko_vs._Dereck_Chisora

    Now Dino, wouldn't you say this was a good performance by a 40 year old, beating a top ten guy at the time in Chisroa with a torn shoulder? Vitali won easy. If he had his left arm at 100%, forget it, its a blow out.

    " Klitschko threw straight rights, overhand rights and rights to the body throughout the fight and connected with a ton of them. At one point between rounds, Chisora was spitting pure blood into the bucket in his corner. For the fight, Klitschko landed 211 of 605 blows (35 percent) while Chisora was limited to landing only 163 of 359 blows (45 percent). "

     
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  3. On The Money

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    Explain to me why Ibeabuchi took a round longer than Vitali 2 round bulldoze victim Kirk Johnson to get rid of journeyman Everton Davis? And what were the scorecards vs Byrd before the injury, Dildo?
     
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  4. dinovelvet

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    lol@ posting scorecards.. and lololol@ at posting German scorecards.. You realize anybody can go pull the scorecards without ever having to watch the fight , yeah?
    Like , i can go pull Wards scorecards to prove he beat Kovalev.. Do you agree Ward beat Kovalev because the cards say so?

    Those cards aren't a fair representation of the Chisora fight. I never said Chisora won , but he definitely won at least 4 rounds and the majority of the rounds were very close.
    Vitali was on his bike for the whole fight and was on the verge of collapse by the end of the 12th. Watch how he holds onto his brother like he had just gone 12 rounds with Mike Tyson.

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    I can't see where he suffers an injury. According to the punch stats , he thew more jabs in round 12 than in any other rounds during the fight.
     
  5. Wass1985

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    Can it sink into that dense head of yours that maybe at that age Vitali was nowhere near his best????
     
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  6. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Yet you still posted this.

     
  7. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes and? He would......
     
  8. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Oh boy,

    1 ) First do you now know understand Vitali hurt his shoulder, but still won at age 40 easily? YES or NO?

    2 ) No one felt Chisora won. The score cards are good. This wasn't nearly as close as Ward vs Kovalev, so why bring that up?

    3 ) Winning 4 of 12 rounds as you suggest isn't winning the fight. I felt Chisroa won 3 rounds with the injury and Vitali's age being primary reasons why. 3-4 years younger, Vitali shuts him out and stops him.

    4 ) For humor, do you think Chisora won the fight?

    5 ) As a mobile big man, Vitali uses his legs, reach and the ring.
     
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  9. BCS8

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    I'm not even going to guess the answer. But whatever it is it will be more of the usual slop
     
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  10. PolishNavy

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    Are we talking about the Klit that made LL retire?
     
  11. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Like you said ESB's resident clown needs to ditch those confounded long shoelaces and watch out for stepping on the rakes of his lawn.

    I suggest velcro shoe straps and a gardner. But will he listen?!

    How's your tutoring going with him? I tried scorecards and punched stats, as well as sports news on the action. No luck here.
     
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  12. BCS8

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    He pretends he has me on ignore but rushes to see the hidden content as soon as it appears :rolleyes: The only person that can teach him anything is his mum with the long wooden spoon.
     
  13. dinovelvet

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    This reads like the ramblings of a madman , you realize your responding to stuff i never said?

    First Vitali stopped Chisora , now he won 'easily' . I suggest you actually watch this fight , k?

    Tyson Fury beat Chisora easily, toy'd with him in cruise control and didn't lose a minute of any round. Even though he was going easy on him , he still managed to get the stoppage.

    Vitali's win did not come easily. He was bullied and chased all over the ring to the point of collapse at the final bell. Holding on repeatably to catch breaks isn't winning easily

    Vitali was so ashamed in his performance and his inability to stop Chisora , he put a shoulder excuse out to the media.
    I asked you to show me the moment he injured himself and you couldn't do it so there's no need to continue this any further.
    Leave the hardline debating to somebody who is capable , ok? Your level is entertaining that sick obsessed freak who spends his life following me around the forum.
     
  14. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Dino in one in a thousand type of poster. Perhaps his obsession level is so extreme it prevents objective reasoning? Facts by 3rd parties mean nothing to him, nor do boxing variables such as age, injury, or official scorecards. This stuff gets in the way of his obsession; he pays no attention to them!

    If he thinks Chisora won that fight, he can say so. But he won't go that far. Instead, he'll say a 40-year-old with an injury sucks because he didn't win via a more significant margin, even though the scorecards show Chisora won maybe 3 of 12 rounds!

    Very few 40-year-olds beat top ten ranked opponents who are much younger and in their prime by this type of margin.

    Hmm... I've noticed he clings to smaller micro-level facts in an attempt to justify his flawed reasoning but rejects everything else.

    Perhaps he's a Dunning -Kruger type with an unusually high bias against?
     
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