Golovkin: Look at Hopkins; My Record's Much Bigger, Stronger at 160!

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  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    How old are you? Tito was a respected middleweight and favored to beat Hopkins. He blew through 154 and Joppy, who was highly regarded at the time (number two in the division).
    The Oscar win was less important but still better than Brook.
     
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  2. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Murray is a useless boxer who couldn't beat an old Martinez with one leg or an old Arthur Abraham . Echols had the power to punch him into his usual shell and Murray would lose another points decision like he did every time he faced anybody with a pluse.
    Sid Vanderpool was better than Martin Murray.
     
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  3. NoNeck

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    And Vitali is a top 10 heavyweight all time head to head. Idk if Vanes is a top 1000 middleweight.
     
  4. Webbiano

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    No neck and Dino, y'all are quality posters, but you guys hit a bit too hard sometimes. The sad truth... And I really mean it when I say that, is that Golovkin's resume is one of the best out there from the current crop, which doesn't say much for the current state of boxing. If you're trying to measure his resume against the truly greats fair enough, but compared to Hopkins at middleweight alone, he's not a million miles away.
     
  5. Webbiano

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    Point taken, but Lewis wasn't originally scheduled to fight a top 10 P4P fighter in his prime. If you were the best boxer in the world, going on to take a guy you maybe should have got a win against already and he got busted for PEDs, would you be really be looking to take on the next best guy out there?
     
  6. shanahan14

    shanahan14 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    My last sentence was supposed to say "Both of these guys didn't even belong at MW."

    Tito was favored because Hopkins resume sucked. This is literally proving my point in why Hopkins had the inferior reign. He beat Glen Johnson (great win) but other than that, who did he beat before Tito? Hopkins solidified his legendary career from what he did at LHW and beyond. Tarver, Pavlik, Winky, Pascal is what made him a legend. His MW run was great in terms of length, but it was filled with second tier guys. The big names were not MW's.
     
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  7. dinovelvet

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    Destroying Joppy is better than a points win over a drained zombafied cruiser weight.

    Trinidad was the favorite to beat Hopkins and is arguably a better opponent than Canelo who Golovkin couldn't even beat .
     
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    Thank you guys for intensifying my lunch break though, I kind of needed this to get me going. Appreciate that extra bit of motivation, maybe I take back the hitting to hard bit, if anything I run to a fighters rescue when I think they are being treated unjustly, it's always good to disagree, keep doing what you do :thumbsup:
     
  9. NoNeck

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    Murray only loses to top level guys and almost beat Martinez and Abraham. He also drew with Sturm. Vanderpool and Echols weren't as consistent over several years but neither would be a huge upset.
     
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  10. NoNeck

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    You still haven't said your age.
     
  11. NoNeck

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    If he beats Canelo and D-Chenko at 160, his middle resume will be better than Hopkins'.
     
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  12. dinovelvet

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    And Murray was consistent? He just got a gift against Rosado and is about to take yet another loss in a few weeks.
    Cotto blasted out the same Martinez who he couldn't beat and was even reduced to fighting dirty to gain an advantage.
    He's completely useless from a world level perspective and was not even better than Andy Council tbh.
     
  13. shanahan14

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    Please name Joppy's best win.

    Are you crazy? Tito had ONE fight at MW before Hopkins and a whopping FOUR fights at LMW.

    Canelo had FOURTEEN fights at LMW and THREE fights at MW before Golovkin. He even fought at SMW before the Golovkin fight.

    Also, save me the bull**** about "not beating". That was a ridiculous decision and damn near the entire boxing world agrees Golovkin won that fight. Not to mention Canelo being a huge weight cutter and on PEDs. You're acting like Tito was some proven MW against Hopkins. He was the favorite because Hopkins was 37 years old and had no notable wins aside from Glen Johnson, really.
     
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  14. dinovelvet

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    That win against WBA Champ Joppy was light years better than Canelo's fake fight against non-ranked Chavez who was drained to a corpse.

    At least Trinidad held a MW title he won from a legit MW going into the Hopkins fight.

    He wasn't getting gift decisions at 154 like Canelo was either and did a lot better vs Hoya than Canelo did against Mayweather.


    Canelo and Cotto hijacked the MW crown and brought it down to a bogus weight where they deafened it against bums.

    The only MW Canelo ever fought was Golovkin. Canelo had one fight at 160 against Golovkin , thats it.

    Only somebody who is trying to hide something or knows nothing about boxing would claim his fight against Amir Khan a legit MW fight.
     
  15. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

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    Murray made Golovkin go 11 rounds for the first time in his professional career. Pretty sure Howard Eastman would give Golovkin fits and probably beats him just to put things in perspective.