Is Wilder the most overrated world heavyweight champ ever?!

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Just noticed how far Wilder moved away from Ortiz`s punches early on, at times he would end up at the opposite side of the ring which was the reason he couldn`t counter early on, just watched the start of this vid and it reminded me how bad Wilder was in those early rounds yet his fans point to the fact that he was ahead on the scorecards! I s this the most overrated heavyweight title fight performance of all time?
     
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  2. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    Fight analysis by the whitest white dude ever.
     
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  3. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Did you see the logic in what he was saying though? At one point he paused his vid to show how far away Wilder was moving to get away from Ortiz`s punches and his body was half turned and he was more or less running, that`s awful!
     
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  4. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    "Is Wilder the most overrated world heavyweight champ ever?!"

    No.
     
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  5. James Smith

    James Smith Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No, because nobody with any common sense rates him.
     
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  6. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    One day Wilder might step up untill then no one rates him on this side of the pond.
     
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  7. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    It's so awful he knocked out a top 5 hw.
     
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  8. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Opinions very.

    Yes.
     
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  9. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    He made too many glaring mistakes though and even if it was a decent outcome fans went way overboard.
     
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  10. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    Just look at boxing history, not all have been all time greats shall we say..
     
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  11. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    And for a guy who makes so many mistakes, he scared the **** out of Povetkin and forced him to use the juice.

    If Povetkin off the sauce yet?
     
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  12. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I've noticed that about Wilder as well. He's very tentative early on in fights, we saw this vs Szpilka and Washington. He is far more effective when he doesn't try and be cute and counter and just stands his ground and lets his right hand go.

    Because of his poor footwork and balance when he tries to box more defensively he often finds himself out of position and off balance after slipping a shot so he has overcome this to some degree by literally running away at times when evading a shot to ensure he is nowhere near his opponent and can't be caught with a follow up shot when out of position. While it minimises his opponents opportunities to take advantage of Wilder's poor positioning it also means he allows his opponents to dictate the fight as he struggles to mount any kind of offense.
     
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  13. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder needs to prove himself or pack it in,if he wants to fight cans then he gets no respect what so ever.All time great he will never be without fighting AJ/Fury/Whyte,& his pocket will be light for money.
     
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  14. smiffyinoz

    smiffyinoz Active Member Full Member

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    you need to be rated to be overrated
     
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  15. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There are some decent points in the video.

    However the answer to the thread title is no, look at boxing history and there are definitely more overrated champions. Quite a lot of people didn't rate Wilder at all and thought the older Ortiz would beat him easily...
     
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