Prime Pacquiao vs Current Lomachenko @ 135 lbs

I agree with you on the style that gives Lomachenko problems, but that’s not Pac. Salido’s looping head down punches and low blows were unpredictable and unexpected. Pac isn’t that dirty or unorthodox.

If Singsurat knocked Pac out in three rounds then just imagine what prime Lomachenko would do? But but context... exactly. Don’t bring up Salido as an example, you just negate any argument you make if you present that as valid and relevant.

 

Lots of guys claim 4. No one's claimed 8.

 

Typical BS .. Gets asked clear questions & replies with asking one. Who said anything about prime Salido? Salido did not handle anyone here. He fought outside the rules & got a SD! Unoriginal small minded guff.. You can't even be honest.

Has Loma improved & evolved since the Salido fight? Or is he the exact same fighter?

By answering in the affirmative you will be acknowledging the amateurs can only take you so far & admitting the pros have developed him. Thus rendering your initial amateur comment half redundant..

By answering that Loma is still today the 2014 fighter that fought OS you are essentially making yourself look very narrow minded just for the sake of pig headedness. Let me ask you this.. Say all these seasoned world champion pro boxers we currently have went into the amateurs ranks & fought all those guys, would you call them fair fights?? LOL Suggesting that turning pro cannot season you, evolve u or round your game is just fooking ridiculous matey!

Oh & before you start going on about well Loma should have adjusted in that fight.. Firstly, it's incredibly hard to adjust to a man deliberately stepping on your feet to smack you in the balls, I think he was quite rightly expecting the ref to do his job! But... If you watch it he did begin to adjust as the fight wore on seeing he was fighting two men! Like I said this only comes with experience though. The amateurs can only teach you so much. Boxing can be a dirty game! In fact Loma probably set a new record in that fight to compliment his other achievements.. Most low balled fighter in one fight in history! He's treading new ground with every fight lol

I don't disagree that a wealth of amateur experience can stand u well turning pro to some extent but it cannot prepare you for a fight like that!

LOL What's even funnier about guys like you is I bet a quick search of your history will reveal you disagreeing about fight outcomes too.. 'so & so was robbed' in far less controversial ones etc yet when it comes to a clearly controversial one like this look at you! I think we all know your REAL problem with Loma!

'No hitting below the waist' son... This is how he 'beat' him! By ignoring that! I'm happy that you freely admit u don't know the rules or at least have no respect for them or the beautiful science in fact. Well done.

 

It’s still not an achievement. You’re talking about a malnourished 16 year old who needed to put weights in his pocket for the 105 pound division. Do you not understand? People gain weight from when they are a child, people gain weight when they start to eat food.
Maybe his mother cares and is proud that he is an 8 weight ‘champ’ but obviously anyone who is familiar with the sport understands Pac’s situation when he turned pro and how meaningless paper belts are.
Pac will be remembered for his style and his dominant performances against DLH, Hatton, Cotto and his battles with the legendary Morales, Barrera, Marquez. At those lighter weights he was known for his excitement and action, not for how elite he was.

 

Bro, after he beat Barrera it was being talked about as one of the greatest performances in the history of boxing.

 

Enjoying your debate with a wall?

 

Dont forget not making weight.

 

I remember it, it was a breakout performance for Pac. People weren’t expecting it, that’s why it stood out. Barrera wasn’t expecting it. And as I mentioned, it was a good stylistic match up for Pac with Barrera being a natural lefty. In the rematch that was a better version of Pac that couldn’t stop Barrera.
When Douglas beat Tyson that was one of the greatest performances ever. That doesn’t make Douglas an all time great.

 

What have I said that isn’t true? I’m backing up everything I am saying. If you can’t refute what I’m saying that doesn’t make me a wall. It either means I’m accurate or you’re inept. Take your pick.

 

People underestimate Lomas power. He likes to start slow, work his opponent out, display his incredible skills then vary and increase the power and velocity of his incredible range of punches. The thing is lately his opponents have not been hanging around long enough to see that he does have at least decent power. Loma can deliver ko shots when he feels it necessary but he prefers to bop away with clever disciplined boxing rather than loading up looking for the ko which is a mistake which many boxers make. The little filipino dynamo is the puncher of the two. Incredible engine, work rate, power, footwork, angles, athleticism and chin. This fight is the battle foot work. As good as MP's foot work is, it is based more on natural athleticism rather than intelligence. Lomas foot work is based on always having an advantage in how he positions himself to know exactly what his opponent is capable of doing. He has the ability to put himself where ever he needs to be at any time. There would be no ko. Loma's superior foot work and ring iq would win him this fight.

 

I've have had enough out of you and it's time that some one puts you in your place. Where do you come off thinking and saying Usyk is more skilled and better than Ali and that Ali is overrated? You think PBF is the most overrated boxer in history which is one of the dumbest statements I've heard on this forum. Yet you think Loma is the most skilled boxer in history despite the fact that he lost to a guy with a dozen loses who was past his prime and in a fight he was the favorite in. Let me clue you in on something, the most skilled boxer in history doesn't lose to the likes of Salido period and dominates him from the opening bell. Log off troll you don't know **** about boxing

 

Loma hasn't met an animal like Prime Pacquiao. Loma's not gonna fight off the backfoot. Loma pressures. Pacquiao feasts on pressure fighters.

I agree, though. His power is underrated, but he doesn't have the kind of power to deter Pacquiao.

 

I say things you don’t agree with so you get emotional and can’t think clearly. Everything I’ve said is honest, I don’t just parrot other people. But Salido doe... you just put yourself in your place when you say stupid things like that.
Many think Ali is overrated. Many think boxing evolves like every other sport. Many think PBF is overrated. Many think Lomachenko might be the most skilled boxer ever. I’m not saying anything controversial, I’ve just offended your hero worshiping religion.

 

That Pac wasnt elite at the lower weights. Bro he gave the best boxing performance of the last 3 decades at 126 pounds.

That's for one.

Second that you never heard of the 8 divison champ thing before this thread. Well you're ignorant or lying when it comes to that.

Third, that Pacquiao won paper titles. Ridiculous. His only weak champion that he beat was David Diaz at 135.

 

I didn’t say he wasn’t elite. I said he wasn’t dominant.
I’d heard something along the lines of him being an 8 weight belt holder previously, but forgotten it almost immediately as it is meaningless.
He never unified any division.