Bellew vs Haye 2

I was responding to the unbeaten in 5 years post. Some go on as if he has obliterated the cream of the crop but when you look at who he has beaten its poor.

Maybe my personal judgement is impairing my ability to judge his ability, he does seem to be so so lucky in how things have fallen though and as a man he's as annoying as anyone I've seen.

Still can't bring myself to give him any credit sorry.

 

I am not a Bellew fan but at the end of the day he has very much made the most of what he has and made a lot of money from the sport - it is a business at the end of the day but in pure boxing terms I just do not rate him and think he has been very fortunate.

I think Haye is well past him best but wins within 6 to set up a massive payday

 

if Haye wins you think this will go a 3rd fight ?

If this fihgt turns out to be an exciting one I can see it ... Bellew would prefer that over going back down to CW. If Haye thinks he wins again its another payday before something huge like AJ ?

 

Peter McDonagh anybody?

BBBofC have a decision to make here, surely they can't let this slide after McDonagh and his 8 month ban.

 

If Haye wins there's no way he'd go for a 3rd fight.

 

Totally agree with all of that, but if Haye wins and he can get in there again for Bellew 3 which if its a decent fight this weekend will sell again regardless of what people have said about the two so far, or he can get a shot at AJ or Wilder as a make time opponent he will defo take it. Haye is all about £££

 

Haye's almost certainly going to lose.
Haye's not even remotely confident either. He seems resigned to losing. He's probably hoping for a miracle punch.
He's been talking the same old "destruction job" stuff he always talked. The same he talked last time.

Bellew will win.
Haye's fans will never give Bellew an ounce of credit.

I'm no fan of Bellew but he's got Haye beat, mentally and physically.
It's up to Haye now to prove me wrong.

 

I love how Bellew and Haye can sell their fake beef as genuine beef to the point where they even begin to believe it themselves.

Total jokers. Not PPV worthy at all. But they have a certain connection, almost as if they're friends who've known each other for years and years, and almost as if they planned and rehearsed it all years ago. They're almost like a married couple at this point.
They forget they don't really hate each other.

 

why? if the fight is exciting and goes down well with fans then it sells and will be the decider. If AJ (thats the fight obv Haye really wants) decides to fight his mando then fight Wilder then Haye wont get the fight? There is no guarantees especially at HW.

If two years ago I were to suggest that Haye and Bellew would be fighting at HW on PPV you would have ridiculed me no doubt, yet here we are with another PPV rematch !

 

I don't think he'd risk another defeat by Bellew. The money grabbed for these 2 fights should have seen him right.

I think it would be Joshua (maybe Fury) or retirement.

 

If Haye doesnt have the option of AJ or Fury (Fury wont want to give Haye a payday) then you think he will take the retirement option over a 3rd fight ?! no way we all know he is in this for the money and there is no way he would run from that. He needs as much capital as he can get his hands on as he looks to launch his own promotion company. Haye at this moment is all about the £'s and there is nothing wrong with that at all, I aint a hater that has a go at those looking to get paid. We all want more money!

 

Agree with unforgiven and twenty. Can't see haye winning this. Hes done. The workouts all you need to see. Hes miles away from where he used to be. Actually just down to being a good fighter that he can still compete at the level. Tbh he can't really...hence why its bellew a cruiserweight hes fighting.

Injuries and the long lay off have killed him off.

I think he knows it this time. The only hope is salah,s boxing will work. The problem is it won't
...there's too many things he can't do...plus with the lack of speed in his punches etc...cant see it being effective. Hayes still fast at throwing the pre-rehearsed punches...but his reflexes are on the slide. Tony's got the faster reflexes. That's why he,ll struggle to win the battle of the boxing. He,d be better doing what he done the last time...swing big and hope for the best.

 

here is a fun fact for you. Do you know that almost all humans have the same reflex speed!

I remember a programme I watched where Jeremy Clarkson went up against Michael Schumacher in a reflex test. Two different tests were done one simple where a rulder was dropped and you had to stop it when you realise it has been dropped. After 5 different test both where getting the exact same results and reflex time. The other was a computer programme where they had to hit a button when a certain colour came up. Again both scored pretty much the same results.

The real test was when the brought in multiple tests at once, the had colours coming down a screen and he had to hit the right colour button as that colour passed a certain point on the screen, he also had to do the ruler catching thing and also do some simple maths. This is when Schumacher obliterated him, its the ability to process lost of information at once and do the right thing based on that info that is where pro's come into their own.

I know the point you are making however and it is valid, I just though I would be sad and drop this bit of inof as not a lot of people will be aware of it. But as humans we almost alll have the same reflex speed !