WoW! Mikey Garcia is about to SIGN with Zuffa Boxing!

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I'm a Mikey Fan but Mikey seems to be doing everything he can in order to sabotage his own career signing with Zuffa Boxing is just the latest.
     
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  2. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    with cherries that plentiful, why isnt boxing filthy with undefeated 4 weight title holders? better yet, how bout a list of fighters with a more ambitious 8 fight run fighting today, maybe im not seeing something.
     
  3. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Its a good run for Mikey. if you dont count the inactivity.
    But JuanMa, Rojas, Broner and Lipiniets are not great wins. JuanMa was done but it was a profile boost for Mikey. Rojas was a tuneup. Broner was a money fight. And Lipiniets was just a belt.

    Listen, Mikey came back with a bang! Quick tuneup and then he annihilated one of the more dangerous lightweight contenders. It was beautiful. But then he called out absolutely EVERYONE! ...Yet fought Broner and Lipiniets? Ugh.
     
  4. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Legacy? Maybe. But Mikey is in it for the money and if Zuffa gets him paid, then by all means!
     
  5. J Jones

    J Jones Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Loma’s schedule is more ambitious than Mikey Diva’s.

    Despite scoring 4 knockdowns and putting on a boxing clinic, Mikey looked for a way out of the Salido fight as soon as things got rough.

    JMM was past his best when he fought Mikey.

    Rocky Martinez was a decent win on paper. However, his record reveals an L12 (UD) against Ricky Burns, followed by a KO6 over Daniel Attah and 3 SD’s prior to the fight with Mikey.

    Burgos came into his fight with Mikey having already lost to Hozumi Hasegawa in a fight for a vacant FW title. Hasegawa, a former BW champion, immediately lost the FW title by TKO 4 against Jhonny Gonzalez and returned to BW where he unsuccessfully challenged Kiko Martinez L by TKO 7 for a BW title. This tells me that Mikey and Grandpa (Robert) exploited an opportunity to beat someone (Burgos) who possessed a good record, albeit one that shows a loss to a smaller man.

    Elio Rojas was an almost 34 year old, 12 year pro, with twenty-six (spelled out for emphasis) bouts to his name when he fought Mikey. Given that he has not fought since his loss to Mikey AND the fact that BoxRec lists his status as inactive, I have a feeling that he went through the motions and cashed out against Mikey.

    Despite being a titleholder at LW, Grandpa knew Dejan Zlaticanin was tailor made for Mikey.

    I can’t find fault with the Broner win. Plus the fact that Mikey beat him a lot easier than Porter did is impressive.

    Lipinets was also tailor made for Mikey. Lots of trainers and fighters point out that winning a belt is easier than defending one. That said, please explain to me and others in this forum why Mikey immediately decided to vacate his “hard earned” JWW title in order to move back down to 135. With fighters like Prograis and Jose Ramirez at JWW, those would’ve been good opportunities for Team Garcia to cement Mikey’s reputation as the killer some fans think he is.

    One more thing, Broner was an undefeated 4 weight title holder. However, his current career trajectory will not land him in Canastota.
     
  6. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    LOL. Obviously you know nothing about Mikey.

    Mikey ain’t fighting Loma. Mikey quit against Salido and got his brother to stop the fight when Salido started taking over. You think he’s going to get in the ring with Loma? Mikey would quit against Loma too.
     
  7. drenlou

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    Obviously you know nothing about boxing.
     
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  8. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    perhaps, but ive noticed you answer straight questions with uninformed opinion.
    so your list of more ambitious fighters is comprised of 1 guy? if thats the case, then i dont think i need to add anything else to my argument.
    not a bad hatchet job on mikeys career, you should see what i can do with floyds.
     
  9. J Jones

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    I’m not a Floyd fan though. However, I respect the man as a fighter. He is an ATG, which is something Mikey won’t ever be.

    Kell Brook is another ambitious fighter, despite finishing 2nd in his two biggest fights.

    I’m still interested in hearing your rationale for why Mikey Diva avoided that smoke with Prograis and Ramirez at JWW.
     
  10. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You received the right answer already from plenty of people. Since 2014 Mikey’s resume is weak. Add to that his quit job against Salido, his cherry picking, his calling out every big name from 130 to 154 with no intention of fighting any of them, and you will begin to see his true colors.

    As for uninformed opinion, here’s a trainer of the year who agrees with me.

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  11. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i used floyd BECAUSE he is an atg, and if his resume can be pissed all over, then mikeys is really not much of a challenge. but the achievements remain, despite our little tantrums.
    i didnt ask for all fighters with ambition, i wanted those with more ambition than a guy with 7 title fights across 4 weight divisions in his last 8 fights.
    i havent formed any theories, i just took him for his word when he said was coming back to 135 to unify, then move back up permanently, and eventually end up at 147.
     
  12. J Jones

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    Thanks for clarifying. I used to like Mikey, but his tactics have grown old. He calls out killers yet goes after resume fillers.

    Unless you don’t know the history of the sport, when there were only 8 World Champions, it’s hard for an objective and knowledgeable fan to not take Mikey’s (and Broner’s) accomplishment (titles in 4 weight classes) without a grain of salt.

    I still think Prograis and Ramirez scared Mikey away. That said, Mikey might someday make good on his word to fight at 147. However, I doubt he’ll take fights with Spence, Crawford, or Thurman when he does.
     
  13. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    im no historian, but most of the reading i did as a child was when my folks would go to the supermarket and i would spend all my time at the magazine rack reading all the boxing rags, there were always 4 or 5 different ones back in the early 70s, so ive seen a bit of boxing and a few fighters develop. i know how what mikey has done stacks up with many other multiple weight champs because ive seen it in real time.
    i have no doubt mikey gets back and makes quick work of whoever is left standing at 140, hes that good. its smart for him to let these guys establish a dominant force at 140. if he beats them now, its less money and little credit, because then they were just never much good. but if he lets a killer get created who he can be the guy hes supposedly avoiding, then its a big payday and huge credit for slaying the dragon.
     
  14. J Jones

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    Despite my wife’s criticism, I still subscribe to The Ring. However, I do miss those other boxing magazines. Especially KO, for the centerfolds.

    I guess time will reveal how good Mikey is. That said, I don’t believe Mikey has yet slain a dragon. Also, if the plan is to let Prograis, Ramirez, and any other potential 140 pound killer develop into a dominant force, it looks suspect for Mikey to move up to face Lipinets for a vacant title that he immediately vacated.
     
  15. El Chicano

    El Chicano Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Yup

    He coulda literally signed with any promoter out there

    But will sign with Zuffa, who never done boxing

    Just seems dumb

    Im sure they will give him a few mil up front, BUT he could make more long term with a promoter who know what they doing
     
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