Successful fighters with the worst reflexes?

You can't be a good fighter with poor reflexes.
It's impossible.

 

I was thinking the same thing.
It's a true mind bender.

 

How do you measure a fighter's reflexes ?

 

George Foreman

 

Fighters can just walk into punches because they lack skill, lack flexibility/agility. Reacting to incoming punches is a matter for judging their defence, not their reflexes.

A reflex is an unconscious reaction. Sure, sometimes you can see an action that must be reflex, but you'd have to be superhuman to be able to see all relexes and gauge the speed.

You can't be a good fighter with clearly worse reflexes. A fighter with clearly worse reflexes would have something like a 100% loss record.

 

I bet you're the life of the party mate

I think we can make a decent bit of a judgement. Guys with fantastic reflexes simply aren't going to be getting hit non stop or never reacting to incoming punches.

It's blatantly obvious guys like Benitez and Jones have surreal reflexes. Greg Page is another that relied on reflexes for his defence more so than good fundamentals. Ali's reflexes were extraordinary. It's pretty safe to say these guys had better reflexes than the likes of Bazooka Limon, Tex Cobb and George Foreman.

 

Guys who are geting hit non stop and never reacting to incoming punches aren't going to be good fighters. That's what I said.

Guys who are getting hit non stop and never reacting to incoming punches are going to be knocked out.
All the ****ing time. Or thereabouts.

 

You implied fighters getting hit all the time need not be devoid of excellent reflexes. I would disagree.

 

Slipping punches is a skill.
We call it defensive skill.

People or boxers without the skill might well react to the punch in ways we don't like, as fans of boxing skill, especially if they are tough determined boxers coming forward, but that doesn't mean they didn't react.

Fighters who don't have the reflexes to react tend to get sparked out and we aren't discussing them

 

I didn't say all the time.

But anyway : reacting to incoming punches and avoiding incoming punches are two different things. Avoiding the punches is defensive skill.

Clearly worse reflexes would result in getting knocked out.

 

Worse reflexes would result in avoiding less punches.