Bellew vs Haye 2

Yeah, what's the deal with the weight cutting? He didn't look as ripped as he did the day before, just wondering why he'd cut weight for the weigh-in?

 

Yeah we sure were m8. I wonder how many of those going for Haye to win done so because they deep down though he would, compared to those who thought he would win as they hate Bellew ? I remember quite early in Bellews pro career seeing photos of him as an amateur and thinking what is he doing starving himself to fight at that weight. Agree much better fighter at 200+ pounds. If he fights next at Cruiswerweight he needs to basically lose a stone, so Stevenson would be ideal for that as not a cruiserweight. Agree only one winner if that happens, Bellew. He's on a roll and be lovely if he got the credit te deserves, but in Britain that rarely happens.

 

He's underrated but come on. He's beat nobody at cruiser and beat a shot to pieces Haye. His best win is arguably a UD vs Isaac Chilemba or Makubu who isn't anything special in the first place.

He beat Makubu who in EVERY FIGHT of his would sit on the ropes doing a poor shoulder roll defense leaving himself WIDE OPEN.

Old grampa Haye with his ''stuck in the mud'' movement was making him miss for 2 and a half rounds even when his timing is off and his speed was gone. He still kept landing jabs to the body and head of Bellew.

Bellew has never beaten a true world champion. Bellew has a good RING IQ but that's from all his experience.

 

Looking back, it was absolute genius. He was obviously injured beforehand and couldn't do the sparring or cardio, so he boiled down to look like a bad ass on the scale, so he would look better and more people would buy the fight. I ain't even mad, I'm impressed.

 

Spot on.

That must have been why the public workout lasted 30 seconds. I thought he looked flat footed in the vids but not to the degree it showed in the fight.

He was blowing like he'd gone 12 hard, hard rounds by the second. If nothing else, that should stop him from fighting anymore, not even taking account his wrecked achilles, he just cannot muster the CV required.

 

Haven't seen the fight.
Unsurprised by the result.

Hopefully both of them can **** off now.

 

Yes, the crazy thing is David looked so much better in the first fight, despite the injury, dangerous, faster, better timing and wasn't blowing even in the 11th. He obviously has something real bad happen in training

 

Achilles mate, it prob gave way months ago and I bet you it's been dosed up with cortico-steroids. I think at this stage Haye is going against medical advice from his surgeons.

As you said, no roadwork, sparring, limited pads as well probably.

 

Any idea on the crowd number yesterday? Would love to know the PPV figures. Cannot help but think Eddie Hearn has shot himself in the foot here.

Some made up beef, a moderate undercard with his fighter in a world title coming in nearly 2 weight divisions above and one of the PPV stars being injured. He must have rubbed a good few up the wrong way last night.

 

Brand Haye and his ego were all about looking good on the scales. Just like a bodybuilder after a show, he smoothed over and gained close to 10-14lbs once he ate and hydrated. He looked slow, timing was off again and he was gassing after 2 rounds but I didn’t expect all his punch resistance to have gone to sh*t overnight.

 

Yeah - needs to retire...

Losing to Bellew is one thing, but on that performance anyone who can get past a few rounds is going to knock him out...

Retire and invest your money wisely...

Just watched the fight back, he was beaten in every category...it also seemed pretty clear he was still struggling with the Achilles...

Haye is a fight or two away from a Tyson vs McBride type situation...

Bellew is a genius, called it spot on...I don’t know how he knew David Haye was so far past done, maybe rumours, inside knowledge...but the timing was exquisite and it’s catapulted him to the stars...

 

I'm very confident a lot of people are going to be very surprised when the ppv numbers come out.

Everyone involved made a lot of money last night.

 

Genius??? David Haye was totally over the hill and had recently fought two pushovers to restart his career. There was a certain cleverness in selecting a popular fighter who was well past his best to challenge. Notice I say clever rather than brave or courageous or impressive.

 

About to watch a re run.

 

I’d rather have the runs than watch a rerun.