David Haye

Speed, timing and even his power have all faded hugely.

Still there's some fights out there for him at HW which would make big money if he wants it, David Price was at ringside, a last chance saloon fight for the two Dave's would be fun, a rematch with Chisora too would be interesting, Shannon Briggs would love a final payday and there'd be no problem generating interest with his mouth involved.

 

Not me - check the threads/posts before the fight about Haye.

Constantly stated Haye was finished due to his injuries before the 1st fight against Bummer and only came back for one PPV payout v Joshua.

He won the lottery twice following 5 mins scripted acting in Liverpool as he knew he was finished and could not go near any live Heavyweight.

Two PPVs later and Haye sails into the sunset with all that cash from the PPV Mugs.

I have been consistent all along about Haye - a professional conman.

 

I'm not disagreeing about Bellew, but Haye is carrying a serious, debilitating achilles tendon injury which if he's not careful could cause him considerable problems for the rest of his life.

He's also got a well-documented longstanding shoulder injury which was so serious surgeons advised him back in 2013 to retire. And those are the ones we know about.

I appreciate that doesn't excuse the lack of timing and chin, but it does go far to explain the lack of fitness and power.

 

As I already posted I chose Haye by KO. What can I say Haye is convincing and more importantly, pre-fight medicals are clearly corrupt AF, as they were before the last fight.

 

He shouldn't have been medically cleared to fight. He's absolutely bust.

 

He is even more shot than I ever imagined. Although the writing was on the wall when he tore his bicep from running up the stairs. That's the kind of thing you'd expect happen to a frail old age pensioner, not a 30 something, physical specimen heavyweight boxer.

If he was a race horse he's have been sent to the glue factory a long time ago.

 

I told everyone constantly before the first fight and even more before the second fight that Haye was done. Whilst I was v happy for Bellew, i’ve played ‘ain’t no stoppin me now’ a couple of times today. I thought Haye was conning the public, but now I just realise he was conning himself...how many of us have done that?

He’s just given us two really entertaining fights, despite being a physical wreck. He gets full credit from me. He will be a superb promoter and I wish him all the best.

 

When you pay for a ppv you expect the main event fighters to be in good shape, i just feel short changed again. The undercard was decent though.

 

He has to stop now. Last night was a sad sight. Even if he is absolutely stone broke, which I’m not 100% sure he is, he has to retain some dignity. If he was to fight again, it’d be like some ghoulish freak show.

 

Salas sold his genuine world class fighter Linares down the river to be in London to work for a guy who he obviously know was finished. Reaps what he saws, as he sold Linares out. Big props to Dave Coldwell thought his tactics and advice in corner were spot on. Look how he wants Bellew to retire, he has his fighters best interests at heart not a pound note like Salas.

 

Redeemed himself by getting stopped TWICE by a flabby blown-up light-heavy/cruiserweight who he insisted he was going to violently and savagely damage and punish in "a mismatch" ?

 

It is what it is.

People carry way too much vitriol for Haye. The first fight raised a question and the second answered it, definitively.

This outcome was always on the table and while I don't think the outward confidence in reversing the result was granite, there was unedited surprise in Haye's post-fight interview. In Joyce's too. That's to say nobody got 'conned', nature took it's course and the chips fell. This sport deals out harsh realities moreso than any other.

My only afterthought now is concern that Haye doesn't call it a day. Had he not gone down the route of fighting a smaller man where speed would be more essential than power, there's a possibilty he'd still have beaten a lot of second tier heavyweights despite his decline. He might've worked that shot at Joshua out. I really hope those aren't thoughts occuring to him.

No matter what the situation is financially, things could end an awful lot worse than they did last night and all the money in the world can't buy back this sport's more brutal outcomes.

 

Looking back I have come to the conclusion that bellew haye and hearn had it all planned out two years ago. It has been more like wwe than ppv.

It's taken me a while but I am on to them now.