Canelo popped for Clenbuterol

Pacquiao did not participate and REFUSED random testing for most of his career.

118-150

Lol

 

Both guys juiced, bud. It’s ok. Marquez was sick of fighting Pac clean with Pac getting the close decisions and no reprisals for what Marquez believed to be obvious doping, so Marquez said screw it, I’ll do it too. And it paid off wonderfully for him. No man in the history of boxing, not even joe Frazier beating Ali in the Fight of the Century, has ever had as much satisfaction from a victory as Marquez over Pacquiao.
Also, just because Manny’s fight night weights may not have changed from his younger to older days doesn’t mean he could’ve continued to make 126 / 130 when he was older.

 

WTF are you talking about?

 

Why do you believe that JMM was clean while Pacquiao was dirty in fights 1 and 2?

 

I’m not sure that Pac was dirty for the first fight or even the second. It’s been awhile, but when Manny really started going up in weight...when was that? I’d guess after his loss to Morales is when he started with Ariza and his historic run really began.

 

You know damn well what I'm talking about.

 

So what changed then? Are you implying Marquez was juicing before too?

 

Canelo-GGG II May 2019 (if we're lucky)

 

Who the **** cares? As far as I'm concerned whatever these guys put in their bodies is their own damn business, not the business of a bunch of moralists who get their panties in a bunch over NOTHING!

 

JMM is a true legend no doubt. Most underrated fighter or the last era. I would say its:

Floyd Mayweather
Juan Manuel Marquez

Manny Pacquiao

 

Come on bro...

Pacquiao is not from the Clenbuterol capital of the world. .

Now you take a flack of your boy by deflecting it to an innocent man like Pacquiao but the evidence is overwhelming that a certain country is indeed the capital for illegal drugs so much so that their animals are even on it.

First look in your backyard..

Atheletes, cows, polticians, every body is in on it. G'damn!! Now you can keep denying it all you want.

 

I'm down with placing blame when there is proof, but you don't have **** for proof. There's a difference between fair play and not. I don't think you know the difference nor tbh anti-doping. The whole reason why ppl suspected Pac of cheating was that Fluid could not believe that a lil man could fight at the upper weights. That's not because it was physically impossible, but because he could not believe the cojones on that little man. He literally fought everyone Fluid ducked one after another.

And then do you still believe the word of a known PED cheat claiming another is the cheater? Really? If that's all you have to go on, the word of the biggest doper in the sport... take a good look in the mirror. Fluid folded in court like a cheap suit.

 

Did Pacquiao put on a lot of size and bulk?

No.

He was simply not draining himself anymore. Whether he was fighting at 126, 135, 140, or 147, he was 146-150 on fight night.

Did the internet explode with stories about a red flag transformation in size like JMM and Canelo did?

No.

 

What changed? Marquez turned into the incredible hulk. LOL!

I don't think Marquez was juiced for 1 and 2. For 3 and 4, no question.

 

Bud, you’re taking this way too personal.
Manny was suspicious before Floyd ever opened his mouth. And I’m not claiming to have proof, just common sense and no horse in this race. I remind you, we’re not in a court of law, nor are we a jury who holds the fate of a man in our hands. Also, I’m not accusing Manny of pedophilia or human trafficking - just using PEDs.
In a golden era of PEDs Manny went from fighting at 122lbs to 147lbs within the space of 2-3 years...without ever losing his strength or speed. He looked as shredded at 150lbs as he did at 126lbs. That’s not normal. He also began his incredible run when he added a strength and conditioning coach who happened to have very little boxing experience.
I’m not taking Floyd’s word for anything. Floyd is scum and, IMO, he also doped. But no matter how much it might bother you Manny absolutely lost the PR battle when it came down to the drug testing issue. It doesn’t matter if Floyd was a hypocrite, Arum and Freddie both agreed that team Pacquiao really mishandled that situation.