Where does Tony Bellew now rank in the All Time British Rankings?

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  1. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Pretty much the same as Haye.

    Both lost when facing the best in their divisions, and both also suffered losses to weaker fighters.

    Neither really beat a 'proper' world champion either......

    Valuev lost to Holyfield 12 months before he fought Haye and Bellew's title was vacant.


    Purely off their head to head, i'd have to put Bellew above Haye now.
     
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  2. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. That list is a joke. Kell Brook, George Groves, and James DeGale ahead of Bruno. He only lost to the elite and won his WBC title from McCall, who completely destroyed Lewis in two rounds. Only the first 7 can be ranked ahead of him. Also, Fury and Joshua are still way too early into their careers to be all time anything.
     
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  3. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Using your argument as to why only "the first 7" can only be above Bruno, puts him behind Joshua.

    Joshua has already achieved more than Bruno, and has beaten 2 of the best HW's available in his era (Wlad + Parker).
     
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  4. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Very good point as most of can see the difference since moving up to cruiserweight.
    Not often the bookmakers get it so wrong twice is it?
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I have a few corrections to make to your Top 15.

    1. Joe Calzaghe
    2. Lennox Lewis
    3. Prince Naseem
    4. Chris Eubank
    5. Carl Froch
    6. Nigel Benn
    7. Jimmy Wilde
    8. Johnny Nelson
    9. Bob Fitzsimmons
    10. Ricky Hatton
    11. Steve Collins
    12. Frank Bruno
    13. Tyson Fury
    14. Amir Khan
    15. Carl Frampton

    Ah, much better!:thumbup:
     
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  6. CST80

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    Tony Bellew when talking ATG's... should be ranked somewhere alongside.... Grover Wiley.
     
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  7. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not even close. Bruno faced and beat much better competition than Joshua. Bruno also wasn't afraid to fight outside the U.K.

    Wlad was a retired fighter that was 41 years old, coming off an almost two year layoff and a loss. Despite Ortiz stepping aside and letting Joshua take what should've been an easy fight Joshua struggled and got dropped before getting the win against a shot Wlad. This is the same shot Wlad that went 12 rounds with Bryant Jennings and was completely bamboozled by Fury for 12 rounds

    Joshua also shamelessly ducked defending his WBA title against Ortiz.

    He also struggled in the Takam fight and barely scrapped a decision against Parker, but it honestly could've went either way.
     
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  8. Dagnaldinho

    Dagnaldinho Well-Known Member Full Member

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    For the last time, it wasn't in order it was simply names put together. So many people have lost their **** in this thread thinking that was the oder of my Top 30, I was simply naming people I thought achieved more than Bellew lol
     
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  9. Dagnaldinho

    Dagnaldinho Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I only did the numbers just to keep track of how many names I've written down, simply just a bunch of names thrown together to compare with Bellew.
     
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  10. Farmboxer

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    Bellew ranks nowhere...........................
     
    Farmboxer, May 7, 2018
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  11. OpinionOfACasual

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    Struggled in the Takam fight?
    Scraped a decision against Parker?

    Cmon now....

    Bruno wasn't elite, look at some of his awful losses before he even got in with the best..
     
    OpinionOfACasual, May 7, 2018
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  12. CST80

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    Well, that would be lower than your entire Top 20 then. Move Yafai into the blue and Bruno into yellow, then and only then could Bellew be lumped in with the blue team, and even that's a stretch.
     
    CST80, May 7, 2018
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  13. MAJR

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    Yes. He shameless ducked Ortiz...when Ortiz got a one-year WBA ban and his mandatory spot revoked for failing a drugs test. Clearly it was because Joshua wanted nothing to do with him that the fight didn't happen...
     
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  14. Nonito Smoak

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    Eww.
     
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  15. Neebur

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    You missed Ken Buchanan bawbag.
     
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