Myth: Boxing is the only sport where 30s era athletes handily beat modern fighters

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  1. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    LOL how you gauge anything from that grainy stilted 35 seconds? Bellew is a bum. Dempsey KO1.
     
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  2. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Thirty-six years between these fights, nearly four decades. That's not a small chunk of time. Where's the evolution? And if you can't identify the evolution, when did it stop? 1980?

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  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Oh dear.
     
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  4. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That video is also originally shot at a different frame rate then interpolated. Its comical for anyone to try and base anything technical from that footage, comical!
     
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  5. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    DoubleJab answered your points in post #111 but you completely ignored it only to come back and post this instead. Pathetic.

    Dempsey was anything but slow and he would have made a soup sandwich out of that bum in your avatar.
     
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  6. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    No it was the Opie who brought up Owens, and it goes for all running on tracks, not just 100m. Plus there has been a major change in the profesionalism. Like I said Bolt wasn't working part time, at university, and also doing long jump. This really hasn't happened in boxing.
     
  7. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Yeah because the heavybag is meant for showing off how skilled you are. You're not supposed to be training and developing particular things with it.
     
  8. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    While athleticism and strength/conditioning techniques have advanced, allowing for higher athletic achievement across the board, that has no bearing on the brain, and traits which would have to do with the type of thinking required by Chess Masters.
     
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  9. technocrato

    technocrato Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In all the sports, most of the advances come from technology. Look at the video. When you take cyclist record, and ask todays cyclists to use the same technology as they used before, they don't go that much faster than before, while the pool of cyclist is significantly higher. In all the other sports, the tracks are better, the shoes are better (more grip), pools retain waves the doesn't slow down the swimmer, etc. Nowadays though, young athlete are trained since they are young, if they are talented are being trained by elite coaches, those skills become a second nature for them. Nadia Comaneci's perfect 10 at the 1976 Olympic would not qualify in todays olimpic (I woud still give that granny a perfect 10 though) :
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  10. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    If this is so them Pacquioas arm excuse really is bull****, he had months to recover.
    David Hayes leg and foot injures are bull**** because he had years to recover.
    You just have admit that these athletes are shitter than ever and lackluster competition makes them look dominate from their predecessors.
    I don't see any fighters today pulling an Ali and going the distance with a broken jaw.
    These guys are not tough to the core.
     
  11. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    In the past the boxers were slow and weak, so they would have more overuse injuries.
    Today guys train and fight with far greater intensity and power, so injuries tend to be more serious.
    Plenty of fighters today fight through a broken jaw/hand etc.
    Every boxer has to be tough to a great extent. You sound like you have a weird fetish for ‘toughness’ and the good ol’ days. It doesn’t matter how tough you are when you are knocked out by a superior athlete. Your heart and ability to be a brain dead punching bag makes no difference to anything.
     
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  12. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Pre-1980s. The further back you go the more atrocious the skills and the athleticism.
    Sparring and video, the end.
     
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  13. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    And I’m saying infighting didn’t even exist, guys would lead with their head and initiate wrestling instead of throwing punches.
    Thank god referees intervene today, there’s nothing that ruins a fight more than guys wrestling inside of throwing punches on the inside.
     
  14. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Exactly, so go and have a look at these bums in the black and white videos. You’re lying if you tell me they don’t look like a guy who knows nothing about boxing who has just walked into a gym for the first time.
     
  15. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Imagine walking into a gym and seeing this. You’d tell him to stop leaning into the bag with his arm punches, you’d tell him to get his hands up, you’d warn him for head butting the bag, you’d pull him aside and teach him some basic punching technique and footwork, and then you’d tell him to work harder.
    But this guy would apparently beat every heavyweight up today. It’s unbelievable how people’s bias can distort their perception and judgement.
     
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