Canelo popped for Clenbuterol

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Is Canelo Alvarez deliberately cheating?

  1. Canelos a clean fighter

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  2. Clenelo is juicing

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  3. Who gives a flying ****??

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  1. 305th

    305th Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Will be interesting to see a "clean" Canelo in terms of his attributes..obviously his power will be reduced.
     
  2. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Conte does not work for VADA.

    Heredia is a dope provider for godsake.

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  3. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's Trouts version of the story which I'm sure there is some truth to it, but simply not exactly the way he tells it.

    Fighters like Trout with little clout are not going to lead the A side as to how to go about matter.

    GGG is another matter because the media will listen to him.
    If GGG wants real testing for the Canelo rematch he should keep voicing that he wants testing to start now this very minute and it team Canelo doesn't want that, then he should keep on exposing Canelo up to the very second that climb up in the ring for their rematch.
     
  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I read that long story from Trout, and I'm not sure where that exposes Canelo. What we learned from that is that Trout said he didn't want to give blood the week of the fight.

    "listen man I’ll give you hair, I’ll give you urine, I need my blood. Not to mention when it getting close to the fight and I’m getting dehydrated it’s hard to get blood out of these veins, they start collapsing."

    Sounds like Trout doesn't like needles and is weakened when he has to give blood. He needs his blood apparently. Now one could say that exposes Trout and opens himself up to the kind of criticism that Pacquiao received for not liking needles or giving blood. I believe Trout when he says he gets queasy giving blood, but if the shoe was on the other foot and Canelo said he was scared of needles, imagine how many posters on here would say that proves he's doping !

    As far as the final part of the story when he went over to Canelo's dressing room and saw Canelo's arm in a sling. Trout said Canelo's response is "well I’m going to the hospital, leave me alone my health is not well."

    Are we supposed to assume that Trout speaks español ?
     
  5. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Like maybe the part when he heard Canelo tell the USADA agent "well I’m going to the hospital, leave me alone my health is not well" ??
    Did Trout have a translator with him or did Canelo suddenly decide to start speaking english so Trout could hear him?
     
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  6. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No we learned that Oscar and Canelo dont like using VADA since they’re the only ones who actually catch folk.
     
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  7. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Key word is "WAS" a dope provider.

    Nowdays he trains athletes and I'm sure the feds have an eye on both he and Victor Conte.
     
  8. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    SPIEGEL: What qualified you for the role of dealer to the world’s best athletes?

    HEREDIA: My father is a chemistry professor. I love chemistry, and I was an athlete. My role was an obsession. For example, I learned everything about testosterone: that there is a type of testosterone with a high half-life and another that works very quickly. I learned that you can rub it in, take it orally, inject it. It became a kick: I was allowed to work with the best of the best, and I made them even better.

    SPIEGEL: And how did you become the best in your world?

    HEREDIA: With precision. You want an example? Everyone talks about epo. Epo is fashionable. But without adding iron, epo only works half as well. That’s the kind of thing you have to know. There are oxygen carriers that make epo work incredibly fast – they are actually better than epo alone. I call my drug “Epo Boost.” I inject it and it releases many tiny oxygen molecules throughout the body. In that way you increase the effect of epo by a factor of ten.

    SPIEGEL: Do you have any other secrets?

    HEREDIA: Oh yes, of course. There are tablets for the kidneys that block the metabolites of steroids, so when athletes give a urine sample, they don’t excrete the metabolites and thus test negative. Or there is an enzyme that slowly consumes proteins - epo has protein structures, and the enzyme thus ensures that the B sample of the doping test has a completely different value than the A sample. Then there are chemicals that you take a couple of hours before the race that prevent acidification in the muscles. Together with epo they are an absolute miracle. I’ve created 20 different drugs that are still undetectable for the doping testers.
     
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  9. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't his parents run a lab in Mexico
     
  10. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Everyone knows this lol, same with his other secrets.

    Roflmao. Why even ****ing bother PED testing then lol? Oh that's right, only against fighters you don't like huh?
     
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  11. STEPHEN1990

    STEPHEN1990 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    trout seems a good guy and canelo has showed his not his just an self entitled diva and isn't a nice guy
     
  12. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We learned a lot from that story, like Trout doesn't like needles and didn't want to give a blood sample. If the shoe was on the foot and Canelo refused a blood sample, imagine the reaction. It would "prove" Canelo was doping.

    We learned that USADA administered testing instead of VADA. OK, was VADA the standard in 2013 that it is in 2018 ? We know that Canelo was being tested way back in 2013, by USADA, OK I understand the issues they've had and VADA is better apparently. OK but we learned that he was still being tested a lot longer than other fighters were. Was Golovkin even being tested at all as far back in 2013?
     
  13. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    VADA FACTS:
    • Ducked by Canelo, Mayweather, Marquez (the three biggest juiceheads in modern boxing)
    • VADA catches the most fighters
    USADA FACTS:
    • Constantly screws up testing
    • Paid off by Floyd and given a TUE to mask doping
    :deal:
     
  14. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    Memo Heredia's Greatest Work:

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  15. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Clenbuterol is asthma medication. His power will be the same.
     
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