Golovkins team: Becoming undisputed isnt a priority

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  1. BCS8

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    Again, Golovkin's team agreed to the 168 in the end. Read the link. It's Ward that decided to move up and never come back.
     
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  2. dr_marvelous

    dr_marvelous New Member Full Member

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    ward is not worthy of GGG to take risk. it is not for GGG to be afraid of him. it is because that he cannot bring enough money the same as the risk to take.
     
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  3. BCS8

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    Because:

    1) Froch brings in a bargeload of money.
    2) Chavez brings in a bargeload of money.
    3) Ward brings in relative peanuts and Golovkin would be doing the heavy lifting.

    In any case the point is moot since GGG's team agreed to the 168 weight in the end at a date which would have already happened.
     
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  4. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lol I’m done going back and forth about this.

    Ward showed what kind of fighter he is by taking on a heavier, big punching LHW in Kovalev, if that doesn’t tell you about whether he is willing to fight the best I don’t know what will. Your of course free to hold you opinion on the matter mine is GGG wasn’t keen on the Ward fight.
     
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  5. dr_marvelous

    dr_marvelous New Member Full Member

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    LHW has 4-5 great champion suddenly after ward retire. at the time of ward retirement, beterbiev is his compulsory challenger in IBF. but he retired. why he dont go on his philosophy of boxing to fight the best. not just beterbiev, there are bivol still. recently he want to return, but want to fight the weakest HW champion rather than stay in the more dangerous LHW. what he did is not better than GGG too much. At least GGG still aim to clean up MW division after his latest fight.
     
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  6. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    Since I'm in such a good mood and feel sorry for the way you've completely embarrassed yourself in this thread with your willful ignorance whilst shooting yourself in the foot, I will give you a concession and concede that GGG most likely wasn't overly keen at fighting Ward during that stage of his career. Since his priority at the time was either to land himself one of the grand names in either Froch, Cotto or Mayweather and if not that focus on collecting the belts in the middleweight division

    However it is severely dishonest to pretend he went out of his way to duck Ward who never offered serious terms which were realistic.

    Before he retired, GGG and his team were available and with Ward coming off a big fight victory against Kovalev, and would have been far more willing to discuss a fight with Ward since it would have been so big in comparison to the earlier stage.

    When the question was then put in front of your invincible Idol, who's supposedly afraid of no one, he flat out said he wasn't interested and later declared that he didn't want to fight no more even though months prior he was stating that he was in the best ever shape of his career.
     
  7. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    It's funny how Saunders signed a contract to fight GGG, offered two fight dates this year, and Sanchez said he doesn't want Saunders, yet it's Saunders who is ducking GGG because of some comments he made years ago.

    The most annoying thing about Golovkin is he blatantly put in no effort to face challenging opposition.
     
  8. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    lol like I said you completely showed why I hold my position.

    Anyone who knows Ward knows once he something falls apart he doesn’t go back for it. Golovkin team originally wanted him at 164, they wait till he fights at 175 then they ask to fight him at 168. How dishonest of them.
     
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  9. jmashyaka

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    First of all he took out the universally ranked toughest guy in the division. If there is one more fight he should of taken it is the Adonis fight.

    I can’t see him coming back to fight Bellew but if he does, at least he dropped the belts and isnt holding them hostage like Vitali and Floyd did.
     
  10. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why the hell would he go up to fight at 175 and then come back down? He learnt from his idol Roy jones that once you go up you don’t come back down. He also what it did to Dawson when he faced him.
     
  11. dr_marvelous

    dr_marvelous New Member Full Member

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    Ward didnt rule a division completely as GGG now have done. he has the talent obviously. but that is not enough to define him as the GOAT like the type of GGG in MW division. his win twice over kavolev is full of controversy. That is an shame not an glory both for the winner and loser. if he want to prove himself, he should fight again with kavolev in a fair and clean game rule. If he want dominate both the MW and LHW divisions, he should fight on with beterbiev and bivol. Remenber, those guys have similar age with Ward. Ward is born in 1983. Now is not over the prime time totally.
     
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  12. iii

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    Very accurate & honest post!
     
  13. jmashyaka

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    Lol he only had two fights, also he ruled 168 better than GGG ruled 160 because he faced better competition. I wouldnt make GGG a goat lol, I wouldn't even make him a top 5 MW, because he hasn’t had the competition to put him there. Obviously that isn’t his fault, and he is clearly a future HOFer. He now has the comp to put himself in the top 5, these next 4 fights will be critical also he needs to get active and fighting at least 2-3 times a year like he used to do.

    Bivol is younger than Ward and Beterbiev has had the milestone age award has had. I would for Ward to have fought them after Stevenson though.
     
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  14. dinovelvet

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    Golovkin bum boys still argue to this day why he shouldn't have fought Ward.

    He wanted Cotto , he had to fight Lemieux , not enough money , his focus was on Canelo , he wants #allthebelts..

    They peddle non-stop arguments to justify Golovkin not taking the fight.

    Ward fans i.e the purveyors of truth and reality never made any excuses or came up with any reason why Ward shouldn't have't fought Golovkin. They wanted to see that fight as much as Ward wanted to take it.

    Lets debunk the money issue.

    Kovalev made $2m against Ward first time. Thats the same sum Golovkin made against Lemieux on PPV.
    His highest pay day outside Canelo and Sky BO money was just $2.5m against Jacobs.

    Since Golovkin is a much bigger draw than Krusher , its pretty obvious that GGG vs Ward would have brought in way more money than Lemieix and Jacobs , and Ward vs Kovavev.
    The money was there , along with a career and legacy defining fight that would have made him a two weight world champ and a consensus P4P ATG had he won.

    But he sent Ward away with his get out clause of a 164 pound catch weight and went and fought non-ranked bum Wade , welter weight Brook and Danny Jacobs instead , while Ward went and took on the biggest boggeyman in the division up at 175.

    But it was Ward who didn't want the fight though :cbiggrin::facepalm:

    Gennady Golovkin - i bring you daytime drama show .
     
  15. dr_marvelous

    dr_marvelous New Member Full Member

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    GGG got $5m for Brook's fight + PPV.
    Carl Froch said no. Felix Sturm said no. Sergio Martinez said no. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. said no. And Quillin, Eubank Jr.
    I admit Ward is a big task for GGG. But GGG dont need Ward. It's Ward after seeing GGG's match and ask for his promoter to call and fight with GGG.
    Remenber, 164 is also a catch weight between Canelo and Chavez Jr. with layoff nearly 2 years.
    Meanwhile, Hagler stay at 160 in the whole pro carreer. Nobody criticized him. Why GGG need to go to 168? He is a small boxer, only 177cm.
    Refer to an article "Gennady Golovkin's Career Doesn't Need a Signature Victory to Be Appreciated"
    https://www.si.com/boxing/2018/04/30/ggg-gennady-golovkin-career-record-vanes-martirosyan
     
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