Juan Manuel Marquez KOs Vasyl Lomachenko!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IsaL, May 12, 2018.


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  1. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    What exactly am I bitter about?

    I predicted Loma would lose round 1 and dominate the rest of the fight.

    I know a lot of fanboys don't like real talk, and would rather pretend their favorite fighter is some kind of Greek God...Im here to bring truth and balance to this forum.
     
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  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Its been a while since I've seen it, I had it 116-112 IIRC. And a fairly seasoned JMM doing a great job against an inexperienced journeyman, right after drawing with Manny Pacquiao in a FOTY, is hardly comparable with Lomachenko drawing, and yes it should have been a draw, or even a loss to Salido, in his second pro fight.
     
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  3. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    let me know when you get cracking with the truth or the balance. Id love to read it.
     
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  4. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    have a good one!
     
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  5. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A seasoned Lomachenko with 30 fight experience he would give Marquez fits. Loma is still learning this pro game.
    He had another lesson against Linares.
     
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  6. vnyc

    vnyc Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You seem to love drug cheats like clenelo , who lost to GGG and Marquez who was clowned by Floyd , I guess he was not on ped’s when he fought floyd
     
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  7. vnyc

    vnyc Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Salido lost that fight , unless you count low blows as legit punches, then maybe a draw. Salido should have been disqualified.
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Bit of trivia: JMM has actually fought a Ukrainian before and he said he was the smartest fighter he's fought

    SMARTEST

    Sergey Fedchenko: The Ukrainian fighter, no one knew him. He had a great counterpunching (style), speed and a great jab. He was very intelligent also. Manuel “Mantecas” Medina was also very smart.
     
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  9. klimting

    klimting ???? Full Member

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    I was thinking the exact same thing whilst watching (obviously Marquez when he was still active) Loma would've played to Juan's strengths stylistically, would've made a great scrap.
     
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  10. str1

    str1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You give Marquez way too much credit and discredit Loma's attributes. Loma has better ring IQ than Pac. Loma has better skills than Pac too. Only thing Pac is better was speed and power which is what was killing Marquez until he figured out Pac does the same thing over and over. Loma doesn't make that mistake. He can adapt and we have seen him do it. To be honest I really don't know who will win between Marquez and Loma and wish Loma had been in that same era but you are making out Marquez to be some type of unbeatable guy based only on a KD and on a Salido fight. The Loma that fought Salido is not the same Loma as today. And same thing with Marquez. That Marquez that fought Salido wasn't the same Marquez that got better as he got older and wiser.
     
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  11. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    I'm surprised that he didn't name Floyd as the smartest fighter he's fought.
     
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  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Marquez agreed to speak about the best fighters he fought in 10 categories.

    BEST JAB

    Marco Antonio Barrera: When you want to dodge a jab using speed, you must calculate it. That is what I did with him. I tried to guess where his punches were going and then counterpunch and decrease their accuracy.

    BEST CHIN

    Manny Pacquiao: He took a good shot and he always returned stronger.

    FASTEST HANDS

    Pacquiao: He has a lot of power and speed.

    FASTEST FEET

    Pacquiao: He is always everywhere. He is a tough fighter.

    SMARTEST

    Sergey Fedchenko: The Ukrainian fighter, no one knew him. He had a great counterpunching (style), speed and a great jab. He was very intelligent also. Manuel “Mantecas” Medina was also very smart.

    STRONGEST

    Pacquiao: When he fought, he moved his hips a lot. Then I analyzed that all his power came from there, in the hips. I understood that he couldn’t do his power moves and he would have problems if I used speed so I started fighting different.

    BEST PUNCHER

    Pacquiao: In all the fights I had, nobody hit me harder than him.

    BEST DEFENSE

    Pacquiao: He is great at closing his defense, he has a good guard and it is very hard to land (a clean punch). After four fights with him, I was able to know him better. I also learned his mistakes. Fedchenko also had great defense.

    BEST SKILLS

    Juan Diaz: Juan has a lot of speed. He was aggressive and elusive. On the other hand, Joel (Casamayor) was great with the distance and he was a brilliant fighter.

    BEST OVERALL

    Pacquiao: Without doubt, the best pound-for-pound of his time and I faced him at his best.
     
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  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Interesting match up i can see a case for either guy winning.
     
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  14. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Loma beats Marquez. Loma pressed the action all night on Linares to nullify his height and reach- he was doing so well with it, he got over confident and caught with a good right hand.
    He wouldn’t have to press so hard against Marquez because Marquez possesses different physical dimensions than Linares. Even though both guys have similar styles and Marquez had awesome timing. Lomachenko could box from range more comfortably against him. Style wise it would be a great fight but if you’re picking Marquez to win because Linares landed a beauty of a right hand then you’re mistaken because Loma’s Game plan would be different against Marquez.
     
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  15. Baneofthegame

    Baneofthegame Active Member Full Member

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    Waiting for the typical "LOMAS BEEN IN MY TOP 3 P4P BUT...." as a way of validating some posts.
     
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