Do boxers lift weights? I’m assuming low weight high reps?

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    Have you read the published paper Virus.
     
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    That's all well and good, but what on earth does that have to do with athletes or weight training?
     
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    Relevance to an athlete getting strong and powerful?
     
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    Relevance to an athlete getting strong and powerful?
     
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    I've read it. Relevance to an athlete getting strong and powerful?
     
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    Pilates and yoga are close to useless as well. For an athlete.
    Training changes to an extent within strength and conditioning due to additional evidence. However it changes within parameters. A vertical treadmill is sitting by itself on Jupiter. It's possibly a viable low impact recovery tool for people who are too impaired/unfit to follow a standard recovery protocol.
    And again, this vertical treadmill has absolutely zero to do with any athletic endeavours. Scrap doesn't seem to understand the difference between a car crash victim and somebody who can already walk. It's frankly embarrassing, and he is implying that weight training isn't beneficial. Then he points to his solitary study in the rehab setting to override the thousands upon thousands of studies in reputable journals showing conclusive evidence for the performance benefits of lifting weights in the athletic population. He's a charlatan, a dishonest person who is invested in something and trying to sell it as something it is not.
    To all the kids out there, take your protein, eat your veggies, and lift your weights. Do the things that are proven to work, you don't need to waste anytime paying attention to a silly old man flogging a vertical treadmill. Listen to the experts, read the literature.
     
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    Repairing the CNS,
     
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    Youre serious I take it,
     
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    What part of the CNS? Prefrontal cortex, parietal lobes, occipital, motor/sensory cortex?
    Why would an athletes need to ‘repair their CNS’? Did they have a stroke? Car accident?
    The CNS is all encompassing, you’re going to have to be a hell of a lot more specific if you want to make any sense.
     
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    Actually Im not trying to sell it, Im having the time of my life using it and proving Pratts like yourself are listening to Bull****, Im a truth seeker always have been. As 2 Unis say I was right all along, its a game changer. If you dont see it, it tells me a lot about yourself.
     
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    He got Hit by a Train broken back in 2 places, parallelized from the Chest down.
     
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    Of course I don’t see it, give me some evidence or at least some theoretical mechanism. What you’re saying and what you’ve shown has nothing to do with athletes or weight training.
    What game has it changed? What were you right about? Why would the opinion of staff from two unis override the well established scientific evidence from hundreds of unis?
    If I don’t see it then take some responsibility for yourself and do a better job explaining it.
    I work with athletes and I’ve been through the academic path. If anybody is going to understand it is going to be me, so explain something. Don’t get upset, put away your ad hominem attack and do the right thing. If you’re not prepared to help anyone here then why are you posting in the first place?
     
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    Yep, common athletic injury. So relevance to athletes and weight training?
    Do you know what has also helped thousands of people recover from serious injuries? Movement and weight training. Weight training is movement under load. You go on about the CNS seemingly oblivious to the fact that everything you do alters your CNS, your neuromuscular system.
    So for a healthy young athlete who isn’t paralysed with a broken back, in what way could your vertical treadmill develop strength and power?
     
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    Probably the 100 Kilo of resistance it has, being brought down to 20 kilo depending on the situation you are working with, Or it could be having 6 times more touch and feel through the movement, you are moving the floor it isnt moving you, plus it opens the synovial joint longer. Also by laying on your back it opens the Diaphragm, and makes the heart work 35% more efficient, because the Venous return is pumping along not up, Plus it creates 35% more Lactate than overground running, Lactate repairs the Heart Lungs Brain CNS Liver Kidneys, hope this helps.
     
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    Are you talking about bodyweight on the ground vs the treadmill? Why would less load through the spine/body be beneficial for strength/power? The point of weight training is to overload the body so it adapts.
    How are you quantifying ‘touch and feel through the movement’? Do you have an fmri examining the motor and sensory cortex with an experiment and control condition? And why would you want more ‘touch and feel through the movement’?
    What benefit is there to ‘opening the synovial joint’?
    And again I wonder what on earth all this has to do with athletes and weight training?
    The heart more efficient at what intensity? A lot of bodily processes play a minor part in repairing the body... so? Why are you focused on cardio adaptions in a clinical population? Do you not understand that there is a difference in functionality between the clinical population and the athletic population? If you think your treadmill can help some people recover serious injuries, that’s great. I hope you can get some more universities to run some studies so you can get some evidence to make it a viable alternative to current rehab practice.
    But why oh why do you think it has anything to do with lifting weights or making better athletes? Do you think NFL players should stop lifting weights, stop loading up their bodies to get stronger and instead ‘open up their synovial joints’ on a vertical treadmill? Should the fastest and most powerful athletes in the world stop lifting weights, ignore the vast research in the strength and conditioning world and use a vertical treadmill that could potentially be a low impact rehab tool? Do you not understand how ridiculous that is? I’m not sure about your mental state, I’ll assume you’re just not educated so I’ve taken some time to point out how preposterous your claims are. Not for your sake, you’re clearly not on the planet, but for any impressionable young person who might be reading. I implore everyone to look at the literature because these matters are evidenced based, not opinion based. If you want to be the best athlete you can be in any sport then lifting weights are as necessary as eating and sleeping well.
     
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