Lomachenko/Garcia: How big is the weight difference actually?

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  1. puncherschance

    puncherschance Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Also Roberto Duran went up to fight Iran Barkley and beat him when he was like 50 years old so come on man stop it or should I not mention lomachenko in the same sentence as the great Roberto Duran?
     
  2. Ivan28

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    On the weight before the fight, Loma showed around 10-12 pounds more than Rigondeaux and there were still plenty of time time to gain even more.Didn't remember exact numbers(of pounds and hours to fight), but for myself i calculate that in that rate, in the next hours Lomachenko was able to gain to almost 20 pounds bigger in the ring!
     
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  3. Ivan28

    Ivan28 Active Member Full Member

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    False claims that this is Pacquiao's sparring.In the begining of the video it is written - Linares vs Dennis Laurente.That's pretty ugly manipulation.I think Lomachenko doesn't need it.We all understand why he doesn't want to fight with Pacquiao.
     
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  4. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Loma is small for 135 and linares did outweigh him in the ring height does not equal weight which is what you based your argument on.
     
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  5. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Actually Floyd has been down officially by Carlos Hernandez, and unofficially by Zab Judah. Try to keep up.
     
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  6. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    I thought Linares looked much larger than Loma, the size difference was pretty obvious imo.
     
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  7. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    You're getting upset at him discrediting Linares but not bringing up how majority of Loma stans are overrating the hell out of Linares? Linares best wins are Campbell, Crolla, and Mitchell. Lol. Let's not act like he's done anything else, because he hasn't. Against Mitchell he was losing and getting outboxed, against Campbell he lost second half of the fight pretty badly. His knockdown in the first half and Campbell's inexperience bagged him the fight. Now Campbell is a good fighter so I'm not trying to make Linares out to be some kind of average fighter, he's clearly very good, but he's not even CLOSE to what this forum is trying to make him out to be.
     
  8. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Were you dropped on your head

    Duran vs Barkley happened on 2-24 1989 when Duran was 37. Wtf did you get 50 from ...

    Duran proceeded to go 18-9 after that fight and lost all 5 title fights he stepped up in after as well...
    Duran never belonged at middleweight and went 26 and 14 after he did.
    If anything it shows that he did not belong there.
     
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  9. Lith

    Lith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Linares was taller, rangier and "thicker" looking than Loma - looked bigger in every which way and no doubt significantly outweighed him. Linares is taller and has more reach than Garcia as well, according to Boxrec.

    Garcia has been up to heavier weights, but the catch is there he'll probably have to go down quite a lot (as in, dehydrating before weigh-in alone won't cut it) to manage 135 so between the height etc it may not be quite as much of a big ask versus Linares as it seems.

    But it's all guessing, really - who knows what happens... I wouldn't read too much into the knock down, not at all saying it's not valid but if anything I think that says quite a bit about Lomas chin in a good way. The biggest negative to take from that knock down isn't that Linares was able to hurt him, but the fact that Loma got cocky enough to walk straight into a straight punch - that is arguably a rookie move that you shouldn't have to have the conversation of "Should xx be able to take that"?

    If they fought again, I'd bet Loma doesn't end on his seat again and he certainly wouldn't be intending on letting Garcia have a go at that either - and all that aside, Loma regathered himself pretty quickly.
     
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  10. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    The only thing I'm trying to make him out to be was the best 135 pounder in the world which he was. Obviously 135 doesn't have a wealth of great fighters, but Linares was #1 of the lot, and Loma knocked him out after controlling most of the fight as a natural featerweight.
     
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  11. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    id say al least 10
     
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  12. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i didnt. loma has bigger arms, thicker neck, wider trunk, while linares appears to have wider shoulders, thicker calves and maybe 2 inches height on him. im not saying they are the same, but loma is not that much smaller, certainly not as small as his harem of side pieces that hes got working the web would want you to believe.
    its so easy to tell who joined the forum just to hug lomas berries, brand new account and 80% of posts are shining lomas knob. which is cool, i got my favorites too, but if you dkwtf youre talking about, dont argue, learn.
    not talkin bout you rorsch, i know youre a boxing fan.
     
  13. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    He wasn't the clear #1. He was rated #1 by some rankings, but he didn't clean the division out. So let's not try to play that card either. A massive reason why Linares did well was because of his weight. He wasn't fighting "big" either, so it's funny how Loma fans bring up his weight, yet bring up how weight meant nothing against Rigo since Loma didn't fight charging forward. Weight MATTERS. I'm consistent unlike some of these morons.
     
  14. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Upset? Where do you get that? I know posters like you LOVE to imagine others as angry or upset, as it gives you warm fuzzies inside for some childish reason.

    I don't care what you think poster are "trying to make him in to". That type of discussion, merely opinions from fans, means nothing to me, nor does it bother me.
     
  15. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I just find it funny how you said "let the discrediting of Linares begin", when there are HARDLY any posters discrediting him at all. There are far more people overrating this win like crazy. I know you didn't direct your post at me, but if you consider what I wrote discrediting and not just the truth then you have fanboy syndrome. Like I stated earlier Linares is a good fighter, very good win by Loma, but let's not overrate this win and make it out to be something it's not.