Lomachenko/Garcia: How big is the weight difference actually?

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  1. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    loma did not walk in on anything, these incorrect narratives need to stop. he got caught with his legs crossed trying to move laterally in a clockwise direction while trying to follow linares, linares fired at the perfect time. thats when you need to fire at loma because its the only time you will catch him unbalanced and vulnerable. loma will not be able to fix that hole unless he changes his method of attack. hes gotten away with it so far because theyve been afraid to fire at him when hes on the attack, but these bigger guys will not get as easily discouraged by lomas precision but lack of power.
     
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  2. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i dont think so. i really did think linares was going to be much bigger, and i know mikey is not bigger than him, mikey fought at 126 too.
     
  3. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    Not playing any card, the Ring Champ is the number 1 fighter in the division, that's the way it is and has been since Ring brought their title back. There was a clear size advantage here for Linares but Loma haters/goalpost movers say there wasn't one. But when Loma schools Rigo the same people say it's all because of size. It's doesn't matter what Lomachenko does or what he accomplishes some people will always discredit every win and milestone. When it comes to Lomachenko truly haters gonna hate.
     
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  4. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    LMAO who has said there was no size advantage? GTFO. I haven't seen one person say that. And if there are, they're such a small minority. My argument is that Linares wasn't the proven best. Sure you can say he was ranked #1 on ring, because it probably was a fact that he was. He wasn't close to cleaning that division.

    Loma schooled Rigo because Rigo was 37, moving up 2 weight classes, and inactive. Rigo jumped up 2 weight classes while being SMALL in his original weight class already. Loma moved up 1 weight class, while he was good size in his previous division. Linares definitely had a weight advantage, but Loma wasn't jumping 2 weight classes. You think Lomachenko at 37 while fighting under the same circumstances as Rigo wouldn't get schooled against a Rigo type talent that was 2 divisions above him :risas3:.
     
  5. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    By the way I'm not discrediting his win. I'm just calling out double standards and just pure bull****. It was a good win, but not what the fanboys are making it out to be. Horn beating Pacquiao is far better than anything Linares has done, but you won't see these same people jumping out of their seats if Crawford schools him. They'll call him a bum. I'll rate Crawford's win accordingly. A very good win, but not some insane ATG making win, even though Horn will have a big size advantage over him too.
     
  6. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    I agree with you
     
  7. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't know what each weighed when they stepped in the ring on Saturday night, but I would be very surprised if Linares did not have 10lbs on Lomachenko. The same folks who lamented the supposed enormous disparity in size during the Rigo fight (and I certainly believe Loma had 10lbs on the diminutive Cuban) apparently could not detect the slightest discrepancy in the Linares-Loma tilt.

    Funny how agendas work.
     
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  8. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    I ain't making excuses I think linares was at lest 10 lbs more I think Mikey beats him
     
  9. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Loma's legs were not crossed when he got caught by that peach of a shot by Linares. He was simply sliding forward and to his right to reengage. The rest of your post is a lot of over analysis.
     
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  10. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i know, you are sharing what you saw, but if you were to see what an extra 10 lbs of muscle looks like on a 135 lb man, i dont think you would still feel that linares was 10 lbs heavier. and yes, mikey hits too hard and too accurately for loma to walk off the same shots linares hit him with.
    i am a big fan of loma, along with spence and mikey, i think they are le creme of the next 5 years. i will defend all three, but i wont make chit up to make them look good, im a full grown man.
     
  11. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    look at the direction they are moving from the start of the video, now look at lomas legs when he gets hit... any questions?
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  12. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just a few things, Horn is average, Pacqiao is washed up as all fu.., Horn still only won by a gift via hometown cooking. Thurman, Spence, Crawford, Garcia and Porter are better then Horn. Not nearly the same thing as beating the #1 in the division compared to when you pick a fringe top ten opponent who has a gifted title.
     
  13. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't know man. You take two lower weight class fighters and have one guy be about 7 pounds or so bigger it matters. Having a highly skilled bigger man bang on you for 12 rounds is brutal.
     
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  14. Accurate

    Accurate Jump back, wanna kiss myself! Full Member

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    Yeah, I know Robert Garcia rates him very highly, but he also says that Mikey would KO him.

    Not that I'm an expert, but skills wise I'm not sure any current fighter can match Loma, but Mikey is just too big. Loma won't make Mikey quit and he won't KO him, and I don't believe he can go 12 rounds without Mikey catching him with something big.

    I know I'm probably in the minority here, but I don't really want to see the fight, because as a fan of Loma I don't want to see him knocked out.
     
  15. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao is a 5'5" former Flyweight champion. With narrow clavicles. He should have been KO'ed at 130 pounds by anybody decent there. Him going up and dominating a strong WW champion was unfathomable. You couldn't imagine anybody doing it. The only way to imagine a Flyweight champ dominating Cotto was to see it happen and we did see it happen. But hey like you said it's an ATG we're talking about.
     
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