Lomachenko/Garcia: How big is the weight difference actually?

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  1. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Quote from you "Loma is the same height as Marquez, Cotto, Thurman, he's taller than Porter. I think he could move up"
    tell me again how you were not equating height with size ( by the way he is not taller then Porter both are 5'7 )
     
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  2. puncherschance

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    Loma lost to a gatekeeper and has now been dropped solid by a clean punch not just his glove touching the canvas or going down from a hurt hand, don't play stupid, Loma doesn't touch Floyd skills with a ten-foot pole!
     
  3. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Washed Pac is still a far better fighter than Linares lmao, FOH. I'm not discrediting Linares, just stating facts. Are you dumb? Did I not just mention Pac? A guy who dominated Bradley and Vargas in his previous fihgts lmao.

    Linares might have been ranked #1 in his division but he was not the clear cut #1 guy. He didn't even beat the other 2 top 3 ranked LW in Flanagan or Easter so FOH with that bs.
     
  4. kriszhao

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    lol you didn't know Duran's age and made **** up thinking you were making a point now you have to try to make excuses because of it.
    Lomachenko should not move up he does not belong any higher Floyd By Lomas age was weighing 146+ for years for his fights at Welterweight due to him outgrowing the lower divisions. Loma quite frankly is small for 135 and should move back to 130 where he is average sized.
     
  5. puncherschance

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    U actually think I thought Duran was 50 years old? Duran was shot too **** overweight out of shape 7 years older than Loma is currently and he took the shot and won, what youre telling me is that you don't think Loma can or that he shouldn't move up. What I'm saying is that if Loma is as great as you think he is he would have no problem dominating at 135 and up. Floyd was The matrix and hardly ever got wobbled, or hit so cleanly and often, Loma is a great, tremendously gifted fighter but he is now where near floyds level.
     
  6. kriszhao

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    So where do you rank Horn at 147. which of the names I mentioned would you not favor by a large margin over Horn.
    And yes Pac is washed up he is a 39 year old fighter who relied on workrate and speed both of which are no where near what he was in his prime Pac has never been a great fundamental boxer and unfortunately time has taken its toll. hell the fact that he couldn't finish off a very average Horn when he had him in trouble says it all.
     
  7. bandeedo

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    no. keep your eye on lomas left leg right when he gets caught. his left leg moves from his right side to directly below him. if he was moving forward only, his leg would move back to front, not side to side, and he would be better balanced. also, look at all the replays, one camera is directly behind loma and you can see the background continually sliding left as they are moving to the right.
    his movement was not completely parallel to linares, it was to the right and slightly forward, in order to cut off linares from the direction he was moving, but linares had already planted his feet.
    thats one of the first things you should learn in boxing, do not cross your feet when moving laterally, because you will get caught without a foot behind you and get dropped, even if its just a push. when loma got caught, his feet were approximately 6 inches apart, how steady do you think that made him?
     
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  8. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    LMAO 147 is a FAR more stacked division that 135. GTFO. How are you comparing a shitty ass division to 147? Do you believe 135 is comparable to 147? Yes or no? Btw Pac was 38 when he fought Horn, nice try though, and he came off dominating Bradley and Vargas. He didn't show signs of decline. Horn imposed his size advantage and dirty tactics to win. LMAO @ average Horn, if Horn is average what is Walters, Sosa, etc? Utter ****?
     
  9. kriszhao

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    you are a dumbass you are who claimed that Duran was around 50 and its quoted by the way in case you try to edit it.. you also did not know that Floyd has been knocked down in his career...
    just give up your lack of knowledge is glaring.
    since weight and body frame does not matter in greatness only moving up as you claim why didn't Floyd ever move up to fight Ward or GGG as both called him out... Reason why is Floyd is a better talent then both of them he shold " dominate" them right... but he would get wrecked because he could not keep them off of him due to his lack of size. There is a reason why there is weight classes maybe you should learn why that is...
     
  10. kriszhao

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    So you are ducking the question I see too afraid to answer it which of the 5 above him would you pick Horn to beat.
    Walters is good was considered top of his division for a time and quite a few favored him over Loma. you were probably one of them lol
    Russel Jr is leagues better then Horn so is Linares, So is Marriga. What is Horns best win outside of Pac again? could you at any point in Horn's career claim he was ever top 3 in his division...
    Horn is an average fighter who was hand picked by Pacs team to look good against and it backfired...
    you really think that Horn was better at using his size then Clotty Or Margarito both of whom Pac dominated...
    hell no it's just that Pac no longer has the speed or endurance to keep larger men off of him. If Pac hasn't declined like you claim and he dominated them then would you pic Horn over them?
    If you cant see that Pac has not declined then there is no hope for you.
     
  11. kriszhao

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    Good catch
     
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  12. kriszhao

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    and "And yes Pac is washed up he is a 39 year old fighter who relied on workrate and speed both of which are no where near what he was in his prime"
    : where in that did I say pac was 39 when he fought Horn I said he Is a washed up 39 year old fighter
     
  13. puncherschance

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    English must not be your first language if you actually believe that I thought Duran was 50 years old it's called exaggeration.

    I have a similar opinion of canelo being far from his natural weight, and that he shouldn't continue on at 160, canelo is the same height as Loma, he has no business at 160. Loma at 5 7 should have no problem dominating at 140 even but I don't think he is as good as you guys think he is. He gets hit too much and has now shown signs of possible glass.
     
  14. ellerbe

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    You win bro. Marriaga is leagues better than Horn lmao. Yep.
     
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  15. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd say playing stupid is what you do but from your posts, you are not playing...