Oscar De La Hoya to GGG: Fight Canelo Or I'll Find Someone Else!

Fine, find someone else. Oscar is sounding desperate to release news that detracts away from Canelo's lack of current testing

 

I'm not sure about all that. It sounds like you're projecting. I don't have anything concrete to conclude that he's refused to sign up for VADA. I understand it's been reported that he's not enrolled in VADA. I do not know what caused that to occur. For all I know the suspension and/or cancellation of the fight caused that to happen.

You're assuming that Canelo made the decision to refuse VADA. For all we know he hasn't done anything but comply with whatever testing has been required of him. For all we know Canelo simply went on vacation for a few weeks since the hearing and some representative from VADA was not able to reach him direcrly and put out a press release that all of a sudden he's not enrolled to make news, to get clicks.

You're eating up all this stuff that's been getting reported, and frankly, I'm not buying it. Canelo is not using the threat of cheating to gain any advantage, he's just not going to dictated to by a bunch of Golovkin fangirls or Abel Sanchez.

Canelo has been disrespected to the highest order and I don't buy any of the stuff that's being reported about him because I know it's all BS. Like those articles that say Canelo should be banned for life, these so-called reporters have no flipping clue what they're talking about.

So just because VADA says Canelo's not enrolled, that don't mean jack ****. Canelo is more than willing to be tested, but he's probably sick of all these shenanigans and he doesn't have to do what his naysayers say he should do just to placate them because we saw what happened with the hair test. All he needed to do was take a hair test and prove he's clean, but then he does it, it comes back clean but all of a sudden it's unrealiable. You can't live your life trying to convince the people who hate you to love you.

 

Not ignoring it at all, responding to it directly as usual. I'm never one to back down from a response, you should know that by now.

 

Most said it was a close fight, and 96% is way off.

 

Why isn’t Clen doing the VADA testing by the WBC? Has nothing to do with him fighting, it’s madated for all fighters in the top 15.

 

No it isn’t. It was posted here way back. Literally like 17 people had it a draw or Clenelo win, and the overwhelming number had GGG ahead. Broken down, it was like, 90+ percent to single digits GGG to Clen.

It’s okay, you can deny that too.

 

Gomez stated directly that Canelo refused, and the WBC

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him of his ranking for the refusal. It's not merely a vacation, otherwise he wouldn't have been stripped - plenty of boxers take vacations. GGG has bveen on vacation recently too - but is on VADA 365 testing.

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http://www.boxingnews24.com/2018/05...ings-for-failing-to-sign-up-for-drug-testing/

World Boxing Council (WBC) president @wbcmoro confirmed on Monday that @Canelo Alvarez has been removed from the WBC’s rankings for failing to enroll in their drug testing program when he was asked to sign up.

De La Hoya also echoed the statements that Golden Boy President Eric Gomez gave to *******.com a week ago - that Canelo would begin a random drug testing protocol the moment a Golovkin rematch is signed.

"As soon as he signs the fight, he's on the program," De La Hoya said.

Instead to say that you don't believe the reports ("I don't buy any of the stuff that's being reported about him because I know it's all BS"), and bring up the hair test which is completely irrelevant. In other words, if you don't like the facts you deny it.

 

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/ggg-canelo-media-scorecards-compubox.593770/

Here ya go buddy

 

Not counting the draws, 116-9.

Says a lot doesn’t it?

 

"Not counting the draws" lmao, you said "96% of press row scores for GGG".

I said 96% was way off, you said it wasn't. Yet the link you shared says only 79% were for GGG. Ouch. You served yourself up with that one.

96% was in fact way off since it was only 79%. I caught you in a huge exaggeration now didn't I. But you can deny that too lol.

And that didn't include Floyd Mayweather Sr, Jeff Mayweather, Deontay Wilder, and several others who had Canelo winning after those numbers were tallied that weren't include in that poll. And more to the point, none of those numbers indicate that Canelo was "badly beaten" which was what I was responding to.

 

116-9 is 92.8 percent soooooooooo

Still, 79% is an overwhelming number, so either way, you look bad having a Clenelo card, considering 116 had GGG, 21 a tie and a LAUGHABLE 9 had Clenelo, and two of them were Hopkins and DLH, lol

 

You said 96% buddy. I told you you were way off. You're trying to ignore the draw cards lol which is laughable. The draw cards speak directly to how close it was and how ridiculous it is to say that Canelo was badly beaten. I mean, just take the L on this one. 96% was way off.

 

I'm not denying anything, I don't believe the reports that he's refusing to be tested. Failing to enroll ≠ refusing drug testing. I don't believe there is anything suspicious going on here on the part of Canelo.

If you think there is that's your prerogative. The amount of paranoia over drug testing as it relates to Canelo is off the charts and no it's not justified because other fighters from Mexico have tested positive for clenbuterol (and had higher samples) and haven't received anywhere near this kind of backlash, negative publicity, or accusations. Now granted those fighters weren't at the level of a Canelo Alvarez, so it's not really all that surprising given the reaction to the scoring of the first fight and how many people believe the kinds of conspiracies like DLH paid off the judges and stuff like that.

The hair test is very relevant because the exact same thing was said about the hair test several weeks ago that's being said now about being enrolled in VADA. Canelo needed to do the hair test to prove he's clean, then he does it, proves he's clean, then all of a sudden the hair test is unreliable and the people who said he needed to do the hair test to prove he's clean still don't think he's clean.

I don't dislike any facts here, it's quite to the contrary. It's you who dislikes the fact that Canelo isn't enrolled in VADA. (see what I did there)

I am responding to folks complaining about how Canelo isn't doing this and should be doing that etc, not the other way around.

 

As with every debate, you're not going to convince the (deluded) guy you're debating, but providing information for the interested reader/listener. So good job sir

I like to think of shadow as the resident creationist/flat earther

 

GGG is wise. The game is entirely rigged against him. Drugs, wraps, judges etc.

Everyone knows he won the first fight, why would he risk his 0 on a second which is bound to be as flawed. Don't forget it is entirely plausible that camp GGG are privvy to information re Canelo that isn't in the public domain, as I strongly suspect.

For proud fighters like GGG it isn't all about the money.

Charlo, Jacobs rematch then BJS, or thereabouts, then retire.

 

lol we know without a doubt that the handwraps were legal in Nevada. The NSAC official made that abundantly clear when Sanchez tried to tell the NSAC official what the rules were lol. The fact that you still bring that up speaks volumes. The judges being "rigged" that's conspiracy stuff man.

You're right about one thing though, he's definitely risking his 0 getting in the ring with Canelo, that's for sure. Clearly why Golovkin is scared and is trying to duck his way out of the rematch.

Golovkin knows Canelo is all wrong for him and the first fight exposed that. Golovkin will never hear the end of it if he ducks a Canelo rematch.