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They were chosen because they were highly rated and were better at the gate than Valdes was.

Later it turned out Valdes was probably better, but he lost a lot of times too. Nobody could tell without looking into the future.

Here is an article by Bud Schulberg from 1955 lumping Don and Nino together as the same level.

https://www.si.com/vault/1955/09/05...ght-makes-him-the-sports-communications-champ

 

No that’s not how it happened. I would like to see evidence of first round knockdowns and knocking “all over the ring”.


“1955-09-13 : Nino Valdes 207 lbs beat Don Cockell218 lbs by RTD in round 3 of 10

• Location: White City Stadium, White City, London, United Kingdom

Valdez slashed Cockell's left eyebrow so badly that the stocky British champion was forced to retire at the end of the third round of their scheduled 10-round bout at White City Stadium Tuesday night.”- United Press.

In this report there is absolutely no mention of any knockdown. Maybe he was decked, it certainly did not make the associated press. According to this version, Don was simply Forced to retire because of a cut. Jerry Quarry was stopped on a cut by Ali. It’s no biggie.

Perhaps I think you are confusing this loss with the beating Don took when he was in much better shape against Kitone Lave in his next fight?

 

where was the part about him demolishing Cokkell and bouncing him “all over the ring”? It says he took a count.

What do you think of Kitone Lave? he gave Don a more conclusive walloping than Valdes or Rocky ever did.

Surely you must champion his cause?

 

Jack Dempsey suggesting Valdes rematch Charles? That’s hardly calling upon Rocky to fight Valdes, I read days ago Edward telling you that Nino chickened out of a rematch with Charles anyway. He had to fight Satterfeild in Ninos place in order to meet Rocky.

The other article simply states that after Rocky is done with Charles he would meet The winner of Valdes v Jackson, which is something I think would have happened and should have happened had there been no call for a Charles rematch. The article said if Charles can’t win then neither Valdes or Jackson has any chance. So it’s not like they were held as high as Charles is it?

 

I accept that it says Cokkell went down. It puzzles me that there was no mention of it in the actual report.

A three round cut eye loss is a shorter fight than Marciano had with Don. Yes.

Kitone Lave however, had an even shorter, easier fight with Don that was much more spectacular than either Nino or Rocky had over poor Don.

So you must think Kitone Lave whipped Don easiest of all?

 

Well no because Nino only beat Charles on points in a hard fought scrap with but a round or so difference between them where as Ingo put Machen through the floor.

Neither Cokkell or Valdes were regarded any different from each other. One was #1 one was #2. Even from that position Neither were classed as good as Archie Moore.

 

Take a look at Bud schulbergs 1955 article.

https://www.si.com/vault/1955/09/05...ght-makes-him-the-sports-communications-champ