Okay Scrap. I’ve given you a lot of time, a lot of patience. You still can’t even begin to make any sense so I need to stop wasting my time. Nobody gets what you’re saying because it doesn’t make any sense, and I’ve given you more attention than you deserve. If you do have something to offer then you need to at least attempt to make some sort of sense. You trying to laugh it off and pretend that I’m just too dumb to understand isn’t washing, people can read what we have both said and do their own research. I’m happy to elaborate and explain anything, the fact that you’re not should indicate to everyone what’s what.
Could you explain to me why it creates 35% more Lactate than Overground Running for the same Heart rate please, be interesting,
I don't have a clue about anything you are talking about - nervous system, lactate, blood vessels and stuff.. but when I listen to two guys, one is toxic, and another one is polite, I will always go with polite one. At least, scrap gave us some good boxing training videos, I have never seen anything like that from you dealth_with, only bashing people. It looks like you have great knowledge but its overshadowed with bad internet behavior, and if you are so right in what you are talking about, why do you go so far? Why don`t you just let it go, it would be more convincing. Thank you for trying to warn us, but when I read your posts you sound like an angry adolescent in early 20s kicked out from a faculty of physical education and its hard to take that warning seriously.
That’s an atrocious epistemological philosophy isn’t it? I don’t understand and I won’t try to understand, so I’ll believe the guy who isn’t offending my sensibilities as much. If I post a video of an elephant taking a shower in a thread about physiological adaptations to plyometrics then how is that me being helpful or trying to be helpful? Scrap has been at it for ten years with his treadmill, trying to claim that it’s special, that athletes don’t need weights, appealing to authority (name dropping universities). He is trying to sell a a product, he’s dishonest. So if I don’t point that what Scrap is saying is ridiculous then that would be more convincing for you? You say you don’t understand anything, so me explaining and pointing out all the problems with what Scrap is saying, and encouraging people to educate themselves... and you have a problem with that? I was very polite with Scrap initially, I communicated with him via PM. I wasn’t as educated at the time, I tried really hard to understand what he was claiming. Even with my lack of education at the time I knew that many of the things he was saying were clearly not based on reality. And from the start he was evasive about answering questions about how athletes train, he would just act like he has the secret that no one else in the world has access to. So I am the one being helpful here, trying to warn anybody who is not as educated as I am now. I’m sure anyone who investigates what Scrap is saying will realise he is full of it. So I am trying to save someone the time. You should have a look at yourself, enabling a charlatan while being too intellectually lazy to investigate what people are saying, then basing the knowledge you gain on what offends you rather than the information itself. That makes you exactly the sort of unintelligent, vulnerable person who is going to fall for Scrap’s bs.
Nah I’m pretty sure lactate and overground running has about zero to do with weight training for strength and power for athletes.
Okay, so let’s say that you have some lost training secrets from Atlantis that nobody else in the world understands, that disprove general relativity... what good is that if you can’t communicate anything? So if you can’t or won’t comminicate what you need to say, why interject in a discussion between sane people? What is the purpose? Shouldn’t you just say nothing? If you should say something, shouldn’t you attempt to get better at conveying your message bit by bit until you make sense to stupid people like me?
Post I put on here, was a post to get a reaction on safety, Guy I was working that day did the flip, it frightened the life out of me, as what could happen. Now the other thing I put up is a great way of getting fitter, But all I got from you was what I expected, Theres a lot of evidence coming to light at the moment, that whats being done is wrong. and most of the things tested are paid for, for selling. Fact. Plus things that are now coming to light are Big as regards getting and maintaining Fitness, doing things that are Functional. Weights are not one of them. But its a great way for lifting weights.
I work with elite athletes, including gymnasts, divers, trampolinists, pole vaulters. I’m glad you’re impressed by a flip, but there’s a lot of amazing athletes out there who can do similar things. Who all lift weights. We weren’t talking about getting aerobically fit. Conflicts of interest are clearly stated in every peer reviewed study. There is literally thousands of studies from around the world demonstrating the benefits of weight training for all populations, and anybody who has worked with any half serious athlete can see for themselves that weight training improves all aspects of performance. Saying that weight training is wrong is like saying that the earth is flat. That’s not hyperbole. The only person selling anything here is you. People conducting studies on weight training in athletes don’t have shares in barbell companies. What on earth do you mean by ‘functional’? That’s an ambiguous fitness buzzword that means nothing. I’ve seen firsthand, countless times what a good strength program can do for an athletes athleticism, movement, performance. Your treadmill still has nothing to do with anything. If you want to make a thread taking about negligible aerobic gains in car crash victims then fantastic, but don’t imply that your silly invention has anything to do with anything else. Thank you for at least typing out a bit more than you usually do.
Actually its an anaerobic machine, and its not being sold yet. Thats why it produces the lactate it does, by Touch and Feel, theirs more feel more resistance, and the springs we use are not cheap.
Do you understand that there is a difference between conditioning and strength/power training? And do you understand that in the conditioning realm that physiological adaptations are very specific to the mode that they are gained? That’s why the best runner doesn’t make the best cyclist and vice versa. Maybe your treadmill can be used complementary in an off season period to vary the training stimulus and keep load light, maybe it’s a good first step in a rehab program before athletes can begin running again. I hope you get some research behind it and we have another tool to use. But it is not replacing the things that already have evidence behind them, that are well established and used in sports around the world. And let me be clear, that is just in the conditioning realm that it could have negligible benefits depending on the context of the individuals situation. What you are talking about has absolutely zero to do with training strength and power in athletes, it’s preposterous to suggest it’s even a better way to do things in general in the conditioning side. What you are talking about has absolutely zero to do with lifting weights.
What you are talking about, is what I was doing 30 odd years ago. Realized I had to move on and did. Working with people who new their stuff, and listened, Weights are a form of resistance, but there are other means which are better, for athletic adaptions as regards strength, and movement, without the mechanical break being on.
