Currently, the most overrated fighter in boxing is Terence Crawford. All the top P4P fighters have defeated high-level opposition except him. I do not know how in the hell you can consider him P4P 1. This is just another example of racial bias imo.
Then I'm a basket case. Ali is the very definition of overrated. That's a function of the people doing the rating, not an indictment on Muhammad. It's not his fault people take an ATG and feel the urge to hype him in to a demi-god.
In my eyes being overated and underrated are things that could get mixed up. I think you could rate someone who you think is overated and same other way. It' all dependant on what is being made put of them. Example being I think lomachenko is a brilliant fighter but could be down for me as overated. People talk about him as the most amazing thing in the world and yet I still think he needs to beat a few more top names before putting a statement on him. And I think Mikey beats him. Also someone thinking someone is overated or underrted is an opinion just like how you think a fight is going to go. Some might think Larry Holmes was overated as they didn't personally think he was that great and they feel he was made out to be special whereas I think he was underrted. He was a special fighter and for me too 3 heavyweights of all time. It' all opinionated but I think it' a great talking point
True. The way I got introduced to Ali immidiately removed his mythical status for me, so I got blessed with healthy sceptisism. Of course I had heard about him as a young boxingfan, but as I was a kid when he retired I had never seen him box before. Then Mike Tyson happened and my enthousiasm had no bounds, so my father tried to temper it saying that Ali was even better in his time. Mythical status it was, but I had to see it for myself to be sure. Then Eurosport came with their Ali's greatest fights series (or someting like that) and that immidiately burst every bubble. I was watching these fights, and although he clearly had skills he spoiled, clinched often on the backfoot and in my eyes actually lost most of those fights shown. And that's what I thought "Oh, this must be one of his losses" ... judges scorecards... "UD/SD for Ali"... "You must be frickin' kidding me!" There were some great wins inbetween, like the Foreman one and Frazier II, but most were fights he edged or just lost, with the judges winning the fight for him. That was my intruduction (together with a couple of other fights) to the bad side of boxing as well. Not much magic was left for me at that point, and certainly not in comparison to my hero Tyson at the time. When I asked my dad he answered that most of these fights were past-prime Ali and that is was very true that judges were giving Ali every kinda even round, and sometimes even rounds that should go the other way. Back then that sounded even more ridiculous to me as it still does today... How does that make a fighter great? Of course that reverse introduction to Ali made it impossible for me to ever overrate him again. I actually quite underrated him for a very long time, until I was significantly older and had seen more of his fights. Nowadays I have him behind Joe Louis as 2nd HW ever, but the gap is quite large and he's close to many others on the list. He was far from unbeatable, and actually got beaten regularly from 31 on, only the judges saved him a couple of times. Ali is and always will be overrated. He certainly is among the greatest HW's ever, but not the best and certainly not the greatest boxer of all time as some claim.
Tyson Fury for a good win against an average HW in Wlad and the subsequent hailing of an atg. Ignoring the terrible performance against McDermott, a fight he lost and was gifted the win. Dropped by Cunningham and then used illegal tactics to get the ko. Tyson Fury the myth.
Let me get this straight, you claim Floyd cherry picked his career even with Bob Arum, but now saying that he started cherry picking and being 'protected' after the De La Hoya fight? That's when he became the 'cash cow' because he beat the 'cash cow' with the 'deck staked against him'.. Then he needed PEDs and protection from bums and cherry picks like Gurrerro and Berto? Did he lose his 'god given skills'? And not to mention the 'ducks' that you claim like Margarito was not only busted, but also happened before he became the 'cash cow'.. You have your timeline all messed up...lol You find ways to tell everyone how much you hate Mayweather but then don't understand why you're labeled one...lol