Poll: How good was Primo Carnera?

How? Hughie Fury didn’t win every round against Sam sexton.

I think you get rather carried away with Euro fighters.

 

Fury actually knows how to box, unlike carnera

 

I think you need to watch more Carnera or at least read what champions said about him.

"Primo carnera was six feet five and weighing around 260lb, had always been considered by experts to be only a mediocre boxer. The said he could not really punch, that he just sort of clubbed his opponents. In fact, his reach was much greater than any opponent, and the leverage that gave him enabled his punches to penetrate almost any defence. In contrast to the experts, I had always considered Carnera to be a technically sound boxer, so I was not in the least suprised to hear he had knocked Sharkey out in the sixth round to become the second European to win the world heavyweight title. Within the year he successfully defended the his title against Paulino. He did this in Italy in front of Mussolini." - Max Schmeling. Autobiography.


"But against Carnera you did hsve to be careful. For such a big man, he was deceptively fast. He didn't really punch his weight, but he was a very damaging puncher just the same" - Larry Gains autobiography. Page 107

Page 108
"He was a good man and one whom the game treated very badly. I have watched the film of his fight with Max Baer and heard men laugh, as they saw the big Italian hit the canvas over and oVer again. They should have cheered instead. Baer was a terrific puncher and only a very brave man could have taken that sort of punishment and kept coming back the way Carnera did that night.
He of course came too late to the game...too late to learn the trade. It's true he was not a great champion. But remember he was the heavyweight champion of all the world. No one can take that away from him." - Larry Gains Autobiography page 108



Max Bear predicted Primo would beat Joe Louis! Here is a quote from Max Baer:



"On march 28th Max Baer came out in favour of Primo to win the fight. Max told the press that Primo would explode the meteoric rush of the young Louis. He acknowledged Joe might well knock Primo down but recalling his own fight with the tenacious Italian nine months earlier the champion predicted with his usual certainty that Primo would get back on his feet "I haven't forgot how many times he was down and up in my fight with him that I got dizzy keeping track of the knockdowns, and I wasn't fooling when I hit him either!" Max predicted that if primo was in the same condition as he was when he fought him then Primo would wear the young man from Detroit down."- Primo Carnera, the life and career of the heavyweight champion by Joseph S. Page.



"Carnera was a much better fighter than I gave him credit for. Of course there is a lot of controversy relative to his bouts but, be that as it may, the fellows a better fighter than given credit for.
Carnera's style and his reach, you've got to find a way to get to him, well I did that the first time. The second time I realised I'd just do the same thing again, but I didn't give him credit that he might improve. He handled me with ease. He picked me up bodily and placed me over near the ropes. Those arms were like limbs of a tree and, when he put them in front of him, there was nothing to hit." -Jack Sharkey.

 

I happen to think based on match up Carnera can do ok .. he could jab, he had a hug reach, he had a ton of physical strength, he had surprising conditioning and exceptional heart .. I'm just not sure if he has the power to hurt Bellew .. if he does I completely agree ..

 

I definitely think he was a good fighter with tons of heart. But also, I think in the current era he wouldn't even be a contender today. Lennox Lewis, the Klitschko brothers would destroy him, I also could see him getting beat by Michael Grant, Jameel McCline, Tye Fields, even a really small but skilled heavyweight like Chris Byrd would clown him into a lopsided loss.

 

Any of those guys around now? Mrs Klitschkos boys, Lewis, Bryd, Grant, Mcline And Tye Fields have all been put out to stud. Here Are the official WBA current ratings. Take a look at those bad boys!!!

WBA SUPER CHAMPION ANTHONY JOSHUA GBR
WBO-IBF CHAMPION
WBA WORLD CHAMPION MANUEL CHARR SYR
Won Title 11-25-17

WBC DEONTAY WILDER
1 ALEXANDER POVETKIN RUS
2 FRES OQUENDO PUR
3 JARRELL MILLER USA
4 KUBRAT PULEV BUL
5 TREVOR BRYAN USA
6 BJ FLORES USA
7 DILLIAN WHYTE JAM
8 GUILLERMO JONES LAC PAN
9 CHRISTIAN HAMMER ROU
10 ALEXANDER USTINOV

 

He’d beat Tye Fields though.

 

How many of the current Ring Top Ten does he beat?

 

The current #3 for a start.

He is ready to be taken.

 

I think in his best form, best night, right now Primo has the edge over the whole lot. A slight edge on a one fight basis.

Let’s face it, there is only so far out on a limb we can go for AJ whilst he’s learning on the job like he is. So far He’s beat a 42 year old ex champion, he’s just learnt to fight safety first against another raw champion who took him 12 rounds..and everyone else he’s fought was target practice.

I’m not dumping on anyone saying this. These kids are new. I include wilder in this. They’re all learning. Too early for assessment.

For all I know five years from now AJ will have proven outright that he deserves comparisons with 70 fight guys. Just now it’s shouldnt be a sure thing. That’s how folks end up with egg on their face.

When Joe Louis was at a similar stage of development as Joshua is now joe Louis was not yet champion and Max Baer picked Carnera to beat Joe Louis. Nobody laughed at Baer because joe Louis was still on his learning curve like AJ is now.

 

Don’t forget the pouting BJ Flores! WBA champ Char would be begging for a loss to Primo too...

 

He's probably got more power and a better chin too! And he is only Euro level!

 

He's probably got more power and a

If those are the most positive quotes you can find ,I would stay silent!
"He had nothing ,they were looking at his size not his talent ."Joe Louis
"They coulda put ten rubber bands on Carnera, they still wouldnt have made him into a fighter." Angelo Dundee
"He falls apart when he is hit." Gene Tunney

 

I see not the slightest reason whatsoever to think, or even suspect, that Fury hits harder than Carnera. I'll give you chin, I suppose.

 

Joshua is the WBA champ, not Charr. Charr is not rated in the top 10.