how great could Joan guzman have been

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  1. STEPHEN1990

    STEPHEN1990 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    if he had any dedication and could put the food down lol really talented fighter
     
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    Perennial top 5 p4p throughout his career (or rather, let's make that several years encompassing his prime), I'm dead certain.
     
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    STEPHEN1990 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    how would a prime guzman do against the current crop imo he would be a top fighter
     
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    Depends, which weight class are we shoehorning him into?
     
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    feather/super feather
     
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    He schools LSC/Valdez and beats Frampton, GRJ, Warrington & Jo-Jo pretty handily as well.

    At super feather I wouldn't make anybody even money but guys like Tank, Berchelt, and Vargas would be narrower underdogs/put up a better fight than any of the feathers.

    Lightweight & light welter are fraught with danger, though, when he was campaigning in those divisions (or attempting to, but occasionally missing the limit by a wee nine pounds :rolleyes:) there were no really outrageous challenges in either save JMM (who still was single-minded in his pursuit of Pac and thus didn't tarry long in any one class) and perhaps Bradley; neither was quite stacked the way they are now.
     
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    he was a complete waste of talent lol he would have battered nate campbell and became unified light weight champ if he only put the food down lol
     
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    :thumbsup:
     
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    STEPHEN1990 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    how would you have seen a guzman vs linares/garcia at lightweight imo he beats both
     
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    Too bad we never saw him fight Pacquiao.
     
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    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Guzman was an amazing talent. Power with some excellent defensive skills. But such a waste. Between him and Gamboa, not sure who squandered more natural talent
     
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    Would have been awesome to see Joan Guzman vs Edwin Valero.
     
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    One of my fav defensive fighters back in the day, biggest waste of talent in this decade.
     
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    STEPHEN1990 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    it's got to be guzman because he could have really moved up the weights and had a good run much better then he had
     
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    I was thinking the same thing.