Jack gets jobbed, once again. What a joke boxing has become.

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  1. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Close, but clear. That exists in boxing.

    It can be very close but that doesn't mean a draw is within the realm of possibility. Get it?

    Very similar to Hagler/Leonard. Some very biased individuals love to say Hagler won that fight or it was a "Draw" but most people know Leonard actually won that fight 7-5.

    It was no draw.
     
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  2. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    115-113/7-5 rounds is CLOSE and not clear because you can not assume that you scored it 100% perfectly.
    If you would have scored it 117-111/9-3 it would be a different story but 115-113 is a close and tight fight where a draw is definitely a realistic possibility. Everyone who denies that should stop scoring fights. So you better stop cause you have no idea what you are talking about. You are talking about the fight like it was 12-0 or 10-2 rounds. ROBBERY. LMAO. Even a clear 7-5 would be a different story but there were at least two rounds you can easily scored as a draw, i might think you gave them to Jack 100%.
     
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  3. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jack has a very simple problem: he takes too many rounds off.

    If you judge the fight as a whole without considering the rounds, yes he probably beat DeGale and Stevenson. But unfortunately for Jack fight's are split into 12 rounds, and winning a close round is worth just as much as a fairly dominant round.

    I think the draw is fine, and I dislike Stevenson more than any other fighter.
     
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  4. MVC!

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    It really isn't because when 7 rounds are as clear as they were in this fight, why would a draw ever make sense when there were no knockdowns or points taken off?

    It literally makes no sense.

    No I'm talking about a 7-5 fight, close but CLEAR.

    Lots of fights in boxing have seen close/clear fights.

    This was one of them.
     
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  5. MVC!

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    I think everyone understands that it's a 12 round fight and every round is independent of another, but for this fight, and if you address it objectively - how can you not give Jack 7 rounds?

    I thought 7 rounds was very easy to see if you factor in all the categories of round scoring into scoring each and every round.

    I think certain people just like to override certain categories with others, undermine categories and even erase certain categories from their perspectives while scoring.

    R10 was probably the worst example of it all. He won literally 2.5 mins of the round, then somehow Stevenson "Steals it" with a bodyshot lol!

    Doesn't work that way.
     
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  6. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    IF every round is clear af you are right but that isn't the case.
     
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  7. LD Boxer-Puncher

    LD Boxer-Puncher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Can you really call this a robbery? I mean, come on, a robbery? Whatever way you see it it was a close fight, I could see room for someone scoring a win either way - admittedly probably more so in Jack's favor than in Stevenson's, but it was certainly no robbery. A good decision in fact, as I saw it
     
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  8. rapscalion

    rapscalion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is no doubt corruption in boxing. Always has been always will be. But if you think this reasoning is because judges don't like floyd when he's been on the long end of the stick for shady **** forever, then just wow
     
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  9. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    How do you explain the constant robberies for Jack then? Lol!

    Why do you think he said what he said? Do you not think he has more knowledge about this subject than you do?
     
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  10. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Jack won his rounds clearer than Stevenson won his. I could see Stevenson getting a draw. I couldn't see him winning. Fair judging. If Jack didn't have a glass abdomen we wouldn't have these types of problems.
     
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  11. LD Boxer-Puncher

    LD Boxer-Puncher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's a silly argument, experts in all fields disagree with fellow experts, how do you explain that if its so simple as, he's a boxer so he knows more?
     
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  12. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Of course, he's in Floyd's camp LMFAO.

    Why wouldn't he be more knowledgeable in this field?

    I think everyone knows the pull Stevenson/Haymon/GBP has over Floyd's fighters.
     
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  13. LD Boxer-Puncher

    LD Boxer-Puncher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He said oh it could be and um I dunno...that kind of thing while saying it, I really think it was just something he said in anger rather than there being any substance, or extra knowledge that he has about some sinister going's on against Floyd. You're reading into it too much
     
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  14. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    It's actually so sick how I have to make this ****ing thread after every Jack fight. They rob him literally every time he is in some kind of big fight. It's like a parody now because of how ridiculous it is.

    If you told a non boxing fan about this, they would think you're just joking because there's no possible way this can exist.
     
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  15. rapscalion

    rapscalion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This was no robbery
     
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