Arum is a pile of ****, Walters vs Lomachenko things to note

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  1. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rigo and Loma fight NOTHING alike. Nor does what one gets paid matter towards another. This just shows how naive you are Akbar. Walters is just a fighter to TR. Loma is a star in the making. Hence the difference in purse and treatment.

    Rigo had as small a fanbase as his jean shorts. A style that even HBO didn't want to televise. But sure...it's Arum's fault.

    You should stick to your scruples, and boycott every TR card from now on. That'll teach TR!
     
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  2. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Lets go back more than two years, and try and pair up the current Lomachenko with that two year old post to try and make a point against Akbar because he refuses to slob down Lomachenko's beef like the rest of the ball gobblers. What I stated was factually relevant at the time, more than two years ago. Lomachenko had some boring arse fights, Fact. He was fighting in a very technical manner, Fact. He lost to fat Salido, Fact. Walters was an action fighter at the time, Fact. It was Arum's fault. How do you down talk your own fighter, just because he just gave your star fighter the pumpkin face with beautiful boxing? That is some hating arse ****. Arum is a piece of ****. Ask Floyd, and ask Pac's accounting firm. Yes Loma is a star now. But back then, he was fairly feather fisted, pounding on scrubs for rounds and rounds and struggling to get guys out of there. Tatakun, comes to mind. As does Rodriguez, Koasicha etc. Those weren't exciting fights. Watching Loma land everything and the kitchen sink, and the guy isn't going anywhere. Lomachenko has turned into a better all around fighter now, and he hits with a little more power than he did back then when he was making 126, so good for him.
     
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  3. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No idea what you are ranting about now. Well, I sort of do. You are essentially upset that Loma has a ton of fans who think he's awesome. And since some go overboard with him, you take the opposition stance, not realizing you are doing the same thing. Slob beef? Are you even mature enough to talk about things w/o getting upset over situation you can't control?

    You saying 'fact' doesn't mean anything akbar. Sure, walters was an 'action' fighter (Like a whole bunch of other guys who box). So what? Stick to a point and make it clear FFS. These grammatically erroneous patches of word vomit don't do anyone any good.
    Fact of the matter is, Arum can decide to pay his star what he wants, just as ALL promoters have done. Welcome to the world of boxing...
     
    LANCE99, May 22, 2018
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  4. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    I vehemently disagree with you.

    He's all that is in the toilet stool and not just a piece...
     
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  5. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Not sure how I can be upset that a boxer I am a fan of has fans? That is beyond me. It seems like you are a bit perturbed because I don't gargle Loma's balls like you, or others do. It's a web forum, and people older than I, have said far more immature things on here. My point was that at the time of the post you were responding to, Loma wasn't an exciting fighter. He was a technical boxer that lacked power, and was in boring fights, but was handled much differently than Rigondeaux, or Walters. Me using "Fact" made you acknowledge those facts. It served it's purpose.
     
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  6. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    More of the ball gargling. HOw old are you, 15? Do i do that? how so? And I saying he'd beat Floyd at 130, saying he's an ATG already? Nope. Hell, I don't even buy in to the P4P crap that noobs obsess over.

    Who cares if Loma wasn't exciting for a couple of fights. He's become exciting in a way that Rigo could only dream of. You seem to think because you cracked some made up code on excitement and skill, that Rigo deserved the same pay as Loma. Or Walters. FFS...Boxing doesn't work that way. Are you new or just not paying attention?

    Sorry if those words are harsh, but your stance is petty at the most, disingenuous at the least.

    No, your usage of the word 'fact' just makes you sound like the others who toss that around, desperate.
     
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  7. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Actually pumpkin you kinda do!:

    You're clearly a fan of his opposition :lol:
     
    Liquorice, May 22, 2018
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  8. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Again, this thread is more than two years old. Your sense of time frames doesn't seem to exist. What I stated was relevant to the time I made the post two years ago. I don't even know that we are in disagreement in the current state of things.

    My usage of the word "Fact" was proper. I cited instances that were facts.
     
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  9. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Complain to whomever bumped it up.. Then you can say to them all the saved/cut/paste Loma ball gobbling insults you have stored.
     
    LANCE99, May 22, 2018
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  10. Liquorice

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    #blacklivermattress
     
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  11. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What about Bradley? He consistently made 2m per fight against fighters who weren't well known while making 4m against JMM. The Pac fights excluded since purses against a PPV star don't paint an accurate picture.
     
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  12. travolt

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    Dwyer ?

    Is that you ?
     
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  13. travolt

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    Not only that, but Arum went as far as robbing blind Pac in that first fight. If it wasn't for Arum's shenanigans, Bradley career would never have taken off as it did.
     
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  14. Accurate

    Accurate Jump back, wanna kiss myself! Full Member

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    Arum is a business man, and like any good business man I'm sure he bases his business decisions on what is best for his business, in a cold and business like manner. I doubt very much race comes into his decision making process at all.

    More a case of what he can get away with paying people than anything I guess.
     
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  15. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    I never said he didn't pay them, he just don't market black fighters well or people just expect him to market whites, mexicans, and asians.
    An example is clear between the comp Lomachenko faces and the backlash and the comp Crawford faces and the backlash.
    Both guys can't make those PBC guys face them but the narrative is flipped depending on who you mention between the 2. Crawford makes way more than Lomachenko but Arum markets Lomachenko as, "Better than Muhammad Ali", which doesn't win you points for a tiny white Ukrainian fighter from the black audience that attends your promotional bouts. He did the same with ODLH and Floyd which is why I don't mind not seeing Haymon's face. Sometimes you can **** your fighter with your own bias because you are chasing the money.
    Remember he also clearly ****ed Tim Bradley over , who is a real life nice guy, because he was so busy defending Pacquiaos loss, thats his fighter too.
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    Just to show you how ****ed up that was on Arum , he had more respect for Floyd after the May/ Pac fight and all they do is bad mouth each other, but he never fixed his lips that night to say the **** he said after Pac vs Bradley.

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