ricky hatton, was he one of britians best or overrated?

So above him pound 4 pound ?
Not in order
Ted kid Lewis
Jimmy Wilde
Jack kid berg
Lennox Lewis
Joe calzaghe
Carl froch
Fitz
Is he above
Benn
Eubank
honeyghan
Buchanan
Hamed
Turpin

 

We'll all differ in opinion.

But yeah the only 5 I think are above him there are L Lewis, Calzaghe, Fitzsimmons, Eubank and Wilde

 

Wow let's just take berg for example he beat canzoneri once yes he's was stopped in rematch but berg was dead at lightweight and in press was said to be so. in their 3rd fight berg lost a decision at light-welter previous fights were at lightweight . Berg also beat kid chocolate twice these wins were in the states and are superior to any win Hatton has . Bergs win over canzoneri was described as the worst beating of canzoneri's career to date . Ray arcel was in bergs corner and says conzoneri had to be carried back to his corner after the final bell .

 

I don’t think there’s a solid argument to rank Hatton above Lynch, Buchanan, Berg, Honeyghan, Welsh, Driscoll and several others. Conteh and Turpin were also clearly superior h2h (in a p4p sense), even if their resumes didn’t quite match their talents.

I don’t want to get too bogged down in that though, as Hatton earned his place as one of the best British fighters of his era. He seems to be unfairly maligned in some quarters now, and retconned as some kind of plucky, have-a-go Everyman. He was a stand out talent from early in his pro career, and showed great punch variety, accuracy and versatility, as well as one of the best body attacks ever seen in a British ring. He could adapt his style (such as when he was hurt against Magee), and was too much for all but the elite. He obviously was out of his depth against Mayweather and Pac, but that’s hardly a damning indictment of his abilities.

I don’t have him in my top 10 all time British fighters, but he was bloody good in his prime and a genuine world champion.

 

You are a moron

 

Mcgee very underrated tricky southpaw. Hard as nails Very good boxing brain and big balls. I was ringside that night and apart from the flash knockdown hatton slowly broke Mcgee down

 

Wild fighter a risk taker these are the guy that make history

 

Overrated.

He came up in an era where you could get away with avoiding tough fights.

People were calling for the Cotto fight and he went Tszyu instead, Mcguigan said "I don't think he should fight cotto he should fight Tszyu because that's a fight he can win"

So the Tszyu fight is his best win but it came about because it took the attention off the more dangerous option.

Tzsyu was a good win but not phenominal. It was a mugging mostly but you have to remember times were different for british fans back then so that win was hailed as something special.

Prior to that you gad several years of him holding the WBU facing fringe contenders while it was talked up like being a proper reign. If a british fighter did that now they would get CRUCFIED by hardcore fans.

Against Floyd, that was his best performance and i credit him for that. He went in there and give it everything.

But after that he dissapointed me, his performance vs Pac was embarrasing and rather than tussle with the likes of Bradley, Maidana, Khan, Alexander, which all would have been good fights he retired because mentally he couldnt handle that he wasnt a top p4p talent.

Resume with a lot of holes but he was a product of the times. People who think british boxing is "bad" now were either too young or have forgotten what it was like back then.

 

Floyd, Manny, Hopkins, Cotto, Marquez, Barerra, Castillo, Calzaghe, klitschko, Wright, Mosley.

10 names off the top of my head who were operating at the same time as Hatton.

How the hell can you say he was top 3-4.

 

Oh dear dear, someone hasn't read the thread title... Have a think about it

 

Somewhat overrated. When he beat Tszyu his referee allowed him to keep head butting him over and over, holding, etc., that was not a good win, needed a real referee................

 

Who was calling for the Cotto fight, and why was this considered a more dangerous option?

Cotto had a few months earlier been on spaghetti legs against Corley, whereas Tszyu had looked on top form destroying Mitchell who was the outstanding challenger. Cotto barely scraped by Ricardo Torres after Hatton beat Tszyu.

Based on the form book at that time, there was no reason to consider Cotto the top guy in the division, and Tszyu had effectively unified the division and was the clear number one. Bearing in mind that Cotto was struggling with lesser fighters than Hatton, there is no guarantee he would have come out on top if they did meet in the ring.

With the passage of time Cotto proved himself a better fighter than Hatton, particularly at higher weights. Tszyu was probably slipping and Hatton caught him at the right time. However, it is revisionist to suggest that Hatton was taking an easier route or that Cotto was the man in the division at the time. Tszyu was the guy he needed to bear, and Hatton was a heavy underdog leading in. Within a year or so Cotto had moved to 147, where if anything he looked a better fighter than he did at 140.

 

Always thought Hatton had more than a fair chance against Cotto at 140 - Cotto in his last few fights before he moved up looked skeletal he was struggling with weight big time

 

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Check the timeline. This is from around September 2004. At this point there were question marks over Tszyu as he was coming off a long lay-off, and many thought Mitchell would beat him. Cotto was the heir apparent and had shown no discernible weakness at that point.

Within a few months (as per the previous post), Cotto's stock dropped after he looked extremely vulnerable against Corley, and Tszyu's rose after he looked awesome against Mitchell. By the end of 2005 Hatton was the recognised champ at 140 and riding high on P4P lists, while Cotto was an upset waiting to happen after his troubles with Corley and Torres.

Form fluctuates quickly in boxing. At the point Hatton beat Tsyzu he was the #1 guy in the division, not Cotto. Within a year Cotto was moving up to 147. Hatton can't seriously be criticised for fighting Tszyu instead of Cotto, when it was the obvious fight on every level.