The Mcdonnell weight gain.

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  1. impacted

    impacted Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Luckily for the sport it made no difference and Inoue was leagues above, but 26 pounds weight gain overnight? Everybody says that weighing in 24-30 hours before the fight is a safety measure, but there is no way on earth gaining almost 25% of your body weight in a day is anything other than dangerous.

    Imagine if Mcdonnell had some how stayed in there and come on strong towards the end? It would have effectively been a man chasing down an opponent 4 divisions smaller and would have made the sport look like some barbaric freak show. Credit to Jamie for actually making the weight, looking at you Scott Quigg and Paul Smith, but there must be serious questions now about bringing the weigh-ins forward to the morning of the fight!
     
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  2. kojak

    kojak Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree that the weight gain is ridiculous, absurd even given his weight.

    However bringing forward weigh-ins to fight time is likely to be more dangerous, less time to rehydrate is it not?

    It would make more sense to put a cap on how much you additional weight or bodyweight % you can gain in X amount of hours. Just like making weight some fighters will fail this though and the fight will still likely be on.

    I'm not very clued up on weights etc, someone can probably give better solutions.
     
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  3. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    We need rigidly enforced weight control in the weeks before the fight and in the ring. Weight checks day of the fight ...and in dressing room before fight. Rehydration limits, and in-ring weight disparity limits. Today.
     
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  4. tdf1974

    tdf1974 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just make a 10% limit on day of fight...

    a 118lb fighter weighing almost 147lb in ring is absolutely criminal imo!!
     
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  5. Momus

    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Probably more dangerous, I'd agree. There were very strong reasons why same day weigh-ins were done away with.

    The problem with imposing such a cap is that by the time you get to the weigh-in there is generally too much on the line for the fight to fall through. Fighters can be fined and stripped of titles in the way they are now for missing weight, but many will still take that risk and accept whatever punishment comes their way if it helps them win the fight. I doubt Salido cares much about losing the WBO title on the scales, when it enabled him to get a W over Lomachenko on his record.

    The problem with any set of rules put in place is that fighters and their teams will work to the absolute limit of them. Boxers are by their nature risk takers anyway -you have to be wired a certain way to get in the ring in the first place. If there is a second weight check to make, some will work their refuel approach to "pass" that one, whenever that is. Even if you weigh them before they come to the ring, some will still take the risk.

    There's no perfect solution. I think weight checks in the weeks leading up to the fight are more effective as there is more leverage on the fighter, any weight check at any point can be gamed if desired.
     
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  6. Momus

    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The thing that concerns me about the situation is that for McDonnell to gain 26lbs after the weigh-in, he surely must have cut an enormous amount in the hours before the weigh-in. Presumably his weight was well above what it should have been during camp, unless he had a problem with illness or injury near to the weigh in.
     
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  7. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    This never was about fighter safety, this always was about investment safety. It's not safer for the massive weightcutter, because he just fights one or two weightclasses below what he otherwise should, and certainly not safer for the opponent who has to fight a guy a couple of weightclasses above him. Luckily this one backfired massively.

    Only thing that happens is that in case of a fighter coming in overweight, there's more time for a financial deal, a replacement or a rehydration deal, so there can still be a fight. Money over safety.
     
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  8. Jurgen

    Jurgen Pay Per Pudding Advisor banned Full Member

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    Why are people not questioning the role of Dave Codpiece in this weight farce?

    He was sure Jamie would win this fight on Sky yesterday and big David Price also sank to a very low place on the canvas while trained by the Codpiece.
     
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  9. impacted

    impacted Well-Known Member Full Member

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    To be fair to Dave, he wasn't aware that Inoue had two working achilles tendons.
     
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  10. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Mexican meat imported to Japan :eatingburger
     
  11. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Crawford has made entire career out of this. Walks around 170lbs and was re hydrating up to 160lbs to fight lightweights who weighed at 132lbs and stood 5 inches shorter.

    Needs to stop, because it is dangerous and like the op said results in freak shows.
     
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  12. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    true but I must say what a performance for monster can't spell not pronounce his name but
    was you not entertained
     
  13. Potwash

    Potwash The Real Untouchables Full Member

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    I like Crawford but this is the truth. Its madness.
     
  14. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    If you are referring to Naoya Inoue who stood a mere 5'4 inches, weighing only 118lbs and took out the matchroom prostitute named Mcdonald who tried to cheat his way to victory by coming into the fight weighing 147lbs with a 3 inch height advantage, then yes I was not only entertained by impressed.
     
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  15. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Weight cutting shortens careers big time, I cannot think of one weight cutter who had a long career.
    Then you think of the guys who fought at their walk around weight the likes of mayweather, Hopkins, eubank jr, Froch. ALL had long hof careers.
    (The three who’ve retired did, young CHRIS is on the same path)
     
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