Do boxers lift weights? I’m assuming low weight high reps?

Actually the massage of the spa reduces DOMS recovery time (sauna helps with getting less stiff helping keep active)
Also avoiding strain is important to reduce recovery time
Thats why I train those muscle groups in the pool on DOMS days, or with easier exercises

This idea of "only getting used to it helps" is a bit misleading
There are smart ways to train to reduce wear and tear and increase recovery time and thusly improve how much training you can do
Which was my point

We do not disagree however, cuz absolutely, strength training is so important for injury prevention
And as you said, simplifying my point, the less physical effort required to do something, the more of it you can do

An example of this is training my calves, I can now stay on my toes for several hours, and do a lot of tricky training on it like ladder drills only because weight training helped me improve the tendons and ligaments, stabilised everything, and improved efficiency.
There is a certain amount of isometric strength required, certain amounts of conditioning, and a degree of strength needed before you can train at max potential for something like that.

The same goes for any skill I'm working on, there is always a set of exercises that helps compliment the ease of use of that skill and enhance ability to train it at max capacity.

 

It was because the Uni built one. and used weaker Bands 3rd of the strength, of the ones used in the original test.

 

We’ve actually used the spa and sauna to increase inflammation following training with cyclists. Research has shown that ice blunts the inflammatory response and therefore attenuates training adaptations, so we went the opposite way.
Heat is not good if you’re trying to recover rapidly.
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Keeping plenty of variation in training is important, as is active recovery. It basically is as simple as getting used to training more often. Some people are more susceptible to DOMS than others but I’m yet to meet an athlete that doesn’t completely eliminate DOMS by training more often. Recovery is for physiological recovery, it’s not synonymous with DOMS, more for backing up a higher quality of training. You get sore when you’re not conditioned and you do something you’re not used to doing. Most people don’t train anywhere near hard enough or often enough to even worry about recovery modalities. The proven best thing for recovery is sleep, then eating properly. Most don’t even get that right, even at the highest levels.

 

For what reason? That doesn’t make any sense, unless they felt like the extra resistance was compromising what they actually wanted to investigate.

 

I think the answer is they messed up, not asking what the resistance was, that, they admitted too. Plus they didnt understand the principle, but there you go usually the case, cannot think out of the box.

 

Or they understood but thought it was meaningless? It’s not hard to produce high levels of lactate in non-weight bearing exercises (cycling, rowing), plus we know what lactates physiological role is and it’s not a secret key to anything as you’re making it out to be.
So now the little university connection you constantly appeal to, you admit that they’re on a different page to you. And it’s they who don’t understand, they can’t comprehend the genius of a vertical treadmill with bands. What made you so arrogant? Was it spouting off your left field ideas in the boxing world, where people weren’t intelligent enough to know what you’re referring to and respond? Did you have success with something you did, then assumed that it was a universal truth regardless of context or new information presented to you?
Even with the very little you have given me it is obvious you don’t understand basic anatomy and physiology, so what makes you think that your ideas given to you by a pseudosciencifical practitioner (Osteopath) are more credible than the ideas of educated people? You’ve claimed they (educated people) can’t think outside the box, and have some conflict of interest in producing thousands of papers showing the myriad of ways that weight training benefits healthy athletes. How are you in a position to judge when you don’t understand the basics? Why do you take your Osteopaths views as gospel? Why don’t you understand what the scientific method is? Why do you think your extraordinary claims require no evidence? Why do you think one piece of evidence could outweigh thousands of pieces that have been reliable and valid in their application over many years?
I’ve been more than generous with you in giving you the time and questions that would allow you to respond and explain yourself. Instead of responding like a mature man with something of substance to say you’ve just continually implied that I’m a moron for not guessing your unexplained theory. Have a look at yourself and get real.

 

btw this weird side tangent of a vertical treadmill is far off topic to this thread
my thought on this is simple
If you found one exercise machine that helps you, great
However, I don't stick to one exercise for everything and nor should anyone
You gotta mix your training up

If it is your "number one" for at home use, just say that and talk about it in a thread about "which machine should i get at home"
Thats it, done
No more 10 pages of diatribe about a machine in a boxing forum

 

Well who does he coach?
And if a coach why not do an ama or something and speak benefits there...

 

Scrap was a coach, a boxing coach. He is stepping far out of his realms of expertise talking about these issues. A first year uni student would be more helpful than Scrap when it comes to understanding the human body.

 

I thought cyclists just used EPO for everything. (g)

 

Ah, I see what you are getting at here
Gimmicks and wannabes
Married at the hip

 

I watched a video where Holyfield says that most guys lift weights and it hinders them. The reason why, not stretching. He stated that if you don't stretch properly after a session your muscles will tight and it will stiffen you up. He is talking sense because when i was on the weights i was not stretching at all and i could tell my muscles were nowhere near as loose. It affected my shoulders more than anything, this is not good for boxing.

 

That’s a load of nonsense. Stretching doesn’t do anything to the muscle fiber, after countless research on the subject it has been proven to feel good and do not much of anything else. If you do partial range exercises and don’t recover/plan your training appropriately then of course you’re going to ‘feel’ stiff. Guess what makes me feel really stiff and sore, running. Because I rarely do it. It would be stupid for me then to claim that running makes you stiff.
Muscles actually get tight to compensate for something, to protect you from injury. If you’re doing everything else right and you feel like you keep getting tight somewhere then it’s a good sign that you have poor movement or a muscle imbalance. Lifting weights is just your body revealing its deficiencies with movement under load. You’re better off improving your deficiency rather than targeting a symptom. Stretching feels good but it is doing nothing for you, you’re just repeatedly dulling the pain response instead of working on your movement with a balanced weights program.
You should never be ‘on the weights’, it should be something you’re doing year round for your whole life as part of a healthy lifestyle. Is it really any surprise that if you suddenly do something your body is not used to you are going to feel ****?

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Ok i will ignore common knowledge just for a little article you posted, i suppose all the current boxers also don't have a clue because they stretch.

 

The common knowledge is that stretching doesn’t do anything. There is massive amounts of research on the topic in the scientific literature. People do what they always did, habits stick and the people involved with boxing generally aren’t the sharpest. No they don’t have a clue, you have to be an idiot to look at what athletes are doing and take that as proof of anything. They just do what their old coaches tell them to do, and the old coaches generally aren’t open to evidence or anything different. That’s why boxers employ strength and conditioning coaches these days. The only reason stretching is still done is because it’s part of a routine so it provides some familiarity and psychological benefit.
Evander Holyfield also told me that general relativity is wrong and the earth is flat. Guess what, he also doesn’t know anything about that.