Pacquiao shouldn't of fought Margarito that fight took 10 fights out of him

So he could learn/glean insight from him about Pac/Roach. He doesn't need him for jack ****, he already had Memo Heredia. And you think Ariza did his job if Fluid claimed near death from dehydration? Are you ****ing high?

 

Godammit Jack, you are turning into a great flamo. Like one of these psuedo ones like shadow who try and type smart and ****.

 

This is honestly the first time I’ve heard about memo being in Floyd’s camp

 

He was there. Guess what they did with Ariza afterwards? They fired his ass. Tell me, how does a boxer with two s&c coaches gets to near death dehydrated? Hmm? And so if the accusations started with this liar, how do you continue the accusation against a man that has continued to maintain his innocence? Its like being accused of ****, yet they caught the real rapists, and you still blame him for ****. ROFLMAO.

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I’ve already said that you’re like IsaL and Shadow - you need to come up with your own material.
Again and to repeat, it’s not weird, or even wrong, to believe and support that Manny has always been a clean fighter. There can even be something noble about it. Like I’ve said, I used to believe that myself. What is weird and wrong is how you become so vitriolic and spiteful against somebody who does think Manny probably doped. It’s as if you have some skin in this game that is compelling you. I can’t put my finger on you. I assume that Tomatoe Can is a Filipino. Maybe I’m wrong, but it’s not a big deal one way or the other. I think he’s a good poster for the most part but he’s also a spammer. It’s very strange to me to see a guy join and soon start dozens of threads and have almost 2000 posts. IsaL, Shadow, James500 and El Cyclon obviously have some issues. You don’t seem like all of the above except when it comes to Manny and suddenly you’re more insufferable than they are. You lose it, make petty insults throughout your posts and then try to claim some high ground. It’s not enough for you that I’ve said Manny was my favorite fighter, that PEDs didn’t make him great (he already was) just bigger, that I paid money to see him, that I hated Floyd, no, you’re unhinged that I think the evidence points to Manny having juiced.
Have you ever seen that drawing that can either be interpreted as a beautiful, young lady or an old crone? I can see both images. You on the other hand, vehemently insist that only one image can be seen and you’re filled with hate towards those who say another option is viable.

 

You do know that I considerFloyd a PED user, right? I’ve mentioned it multiple times in multiple threads and in conversations with you.
That doesn’t prove Mannys innocence, it could be a case of takes one to know one.
And your example of **** followed with ROFLMAO
is really bizarre and frankly a little unsettling. Feel free to respond as you see fit smoke, but I’m checking out of this conversation with you.

 

This was one of the worst cherry picks by a p4p fighter in recent times.

He was about two years removed from any meaningful victory and was drained and it was for a bs belt to top it off. At the time everyone predicted PAC to dominate but some people try looking back on this farce as if it was some sort of achievement.

It wasn't.

 

Be real and smell the coffee. Im not a scientist, it is not my job to collect evidence. The fact is he was on PEDS's. Do some research and don't be naive.

 

LOL no offense bro., Research won't show evidence and proof, it only shows rumors, speculations and assumptions in the internet. I don't fall for that, it holds nothing and proves pointless accusations.
You can however do whatever pleases you.
IF it is a fact (like you say) then how come all those boxing commission never know about it? They are the ones who has all these advance technologies and equipment that supposed to catch PEDS usage like they did to Canelo. They had hands-on check with Manny many times and found nothing of your claims.
So your issue / accusations actually is supposed to be addressed to them Boxing commission, not me. I don't have an issue with Manny's PEDS or non-PEDS usage and not losing sleep about it.

My suggestion is for you to raise your somewhat FACTUAL knowledge about this PEDS usage to the boxing commission and they might consider and listen to your accusations, I know I'm not.
Have a good day.

 

@Jackstraw @thesmokingm

NO ONE has suggested that Ariza administers a doping program. HOWEVER, Vanes publicly stated on Twitter that Memo offered him injections for $9,000 a pop. And Vargas walked away from Memo stating that he wanted to "walk the right path," so there's TWO PROFESSIONAL BOXERS that have pretty much came out and said that Memo offered them PEDs.

 

I’m pretty certain that both myself and smokingman agree that memo is a PED supplier and that JMM willfully used him for that reason

 

Seriously, blah blah blah more BS. Each point you present I counter, you ignore and act like there are no holes in your crap. Rinse, repeat.

There's no need for you to agree on Memo. It's a fact he turned States witness and testified before the grand jury that he supplied EPO and steroids to BALCO. He however is not an organic chemist, a Patrick Arnold he is not.

 

I think we got into this topic a decade ago and it was then that I found out you're autistic.

 

What a hideous creature this Memo Heredia. First time i heard it talk his voice and that mug makes me want to vomit.

 

Just as I thought ROFL You STILL have no answer & cannot offer any proof for your ludicrous statements. Youre just a lemming, a casual, following like a sheep
Try following ballet I'd be more suitable for you I think