Who fought better versions of Langford, Jeannette and Mcvey? Johnson or WIlls?

I've produced verified information that Johnson signed to defend against Langford ,McVey, and Jeannette and that the fights did not happen through no fault of his.
NOBODY has yet produced a concrete offer of $30,000, Johnson's asking price for a title defence that he turned down. The bottomline is this.
I have proof he signed to defend against them ,you have no proof he refused to do so! I have the fact of 4 signed contracts agreeing to defend against them you have NOTHING but your opinion.

 

I’ll look at the article again but Off the top of my head didn’t Kearns say no and forbid Dempsey from fighting him. Dempsey then says he'll fight any white man but not any black men because all it took was a bad showing and the title shot would be up in smoke.

So Dempsey is implying had Jeanette been white, the fight would have gone on

 

Can you post it for me?

 

I called it what is is a LIE.

 

I've done it several times already, if you want to get the inside dope on it buy the Pollack 2nd volume I'd advise buying both volumes and the Moyle Langford book.

 

Absolutely, I agree here. Wills fought the better versions by far

 

It used to be on Boxrec itself, before they removed some of the newspaper clippings.

I can try to dig it out.

 

The case against some of these wins stacks up better than others.

Langford and Jeannette were indeed local level operators when Johnson beat them, but McVea was a serious scalp, teenager or no.

 

In terms of Wills, I would say that Langford and McVea were still serious forces, but Jeanette was just a name.

 

You are referring to a quote from Burt Sugar ,an unverified quote which means Jack **** Langford in1920 was blind in one eye and had impaired vision in the other.In 1920 Langford, around 37 years old lost to;
Jack Thompsonx2
Lee Anderson
Joe Borker
A match between him and Dempsey the reigning heavyweight champion would not have been a credible proposition and ,had it occurred posters like yourself would be busily slagging Dempsey for agreeing to such a match today!
You blatant hypocrite!

 

McVea may have been good for a teenager, but I think beating a 1915 version of McVea is a lot better. In 1915 McVea was more mature, world class, proven, on a great winning streak, and rated top 3 in the world.

 

Unless you consider a very green wills fighting on dead even terms with a prime Jeanette an accomplishment in 1913

 

McVey was a month off of 20 years old when Johnson knocked him out, and he was a prominent contender for Jeffries title.

"At Mechanics' Pavilion last night Jack Johnson knocked out Sam McVey in the twentieth round after a one-sided contest. It was Johnson's fight throughout and he would probably have won the decision in any event. McVey managed to struggle on until almost the end of the twentieth round when he went down before Johnson's blows and had to be carried to his corner. He was clearly inferior to Johnson throughout the battle. Before the fight it was announced that the winner would challenge Champion Jim Jeffries."

McVey was 207lbs for the fight 17lbs heavier than Johnson.

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Agenda driven posters would like to imply McVey was some kid, this was not the case.