Weight bullies

Fans act like this is some new thing/concept/action/strategy. A lot of you act like this is some totally new, out of thin air development in the last decade.

 

“I’ve been with Manny for like 12 years, maybe more. People just know what they see on TV or what they read on the Internet or in the magazines. But Manny is actually a lightweight. He’s a lightweight fighting at welterweight. That’s what a lot of people don’t know.

“They say, ‘Oh, Manny’s not the same. He’s not knocking people out.’ It’s hard to knock big guys out. They can take the punches better. There’s a lot of things people don’t know. A lot of people just follow what they see on social media and whatever they read. But Horn was way too big, and I think Manny should be fighting at 140. Manny would destroy anybody at 140.”

“I think he has made such a big name that his situation kind of demands for him to be at 147,” Beltran said. “All the fans look at him as a welterweight. I think that’s his situation. But I believe Manny could easily make 140 and 135. And Manny would be a killer, a monster at that weight.”

Ray Beltran (November 2017)

 

If I had to use the definition to describe I'd say Gerald McCellan KNEW he had an advantage by re-hydrating to near damn 180lbs, then fight as a MW.
Same with Michael Moorer as a LHW, Manny Steward knew how to work with guys like that. This is how Moorer was able to go from LHW past CW to HW in less than a year.


On the flip side, Henry Armstrong won the FW title, the same year he fought for the WW title, 133lbs giving way to 142lb Ross.
Won it.
Interesting that he didn't need to fight a guy 9lbs over who rehydrated. Rather he simply didn't give a damn about the difference. Same year, drops down to LW and wins that as well.
As a LW fought and beat Ceferina Garcia.... a MW!

Bert Sugar RIP said that when he fought Garcia the 2nd time for the MW belt, the Draw was disputed and controversial. All the more power to Armstrong who never said he lost because the dude was bigger.

Wimps. That is the wimpinization of our athletes...if that's a word....it is now!
even a woman can make the Armstrong claim; Ann Wolfe fought and won titles in 3 weight classes at the same time.

So if a person didn't want to be a weight bully- fight at the weight U drain down to and fight at the weight U walk around at...Ann did it...

 

I don't really love catchweights, but If it makes a great fight happen, I overlook them. And I did say Chenko (at 135). No at 126 and 130 he was a weight bully also.

 

People are mad over anything these days.

If you make the weight, end of story.

 

Yeah, I gotta agree with the others, if we had same day weigh ins then there's a risk that rehydrating inordinate amount of weight would result in a loss of performance, if you're willing to take that risk, fair play.

With day-before weigh ins, you are allowed plenty of time to recover, of course everyone can do this, but why should they? Why should everyone go through this torturous and unhealthy practice just to ensure that you're not handicapped in the fight? It's a bull**** loophole.

 

How is GGG even a weight bully? He makes 160 comfortably.

 

It's not easy to lose weight, even for an elite athlete, near 40. The metabolism changes. Manny wouldn't be a monster at any weight now, he's old, clean and done. He looked 48 in the ring with Horn (and still won, doesn't look good for the Hornet on Sat). That's just how it is. But Beltran is right, guys don't like moving from traditional divisions into Junior ones. That's why Pac and May fought those big guys, and why Shane Mosley skipped 140.

 

You are welcome to your opinions

 

The reason that they killed same-day weigh ins, ironically, is because too many fighters were dying. They were still sweating down to unnatural weights, but they didn't have enough time to rehydrate fully, which doctors discovered was 30 hours or so, so their brains were dry in the ring and they got hit and saw stars.

...That plus they wanted to hype the fights by getting the weigh-ins on the nighttime sportscasts before ESPN was big, literally.

 

If you hated me back then, chances are I viewed you as a floyd dickrider and treated you as such, right or wrong.

 

Moron. Cotto had a belt he wanted and was a payday. Vanes was literally the product of Clenelo popping hot.

Stupid.

 

I think they should just introduce some fight night weigh in stipulation (like literally just before the fight), rehydrate too much weight? 25% of your purse gone to the other fighter.